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Re: DES export to Europe

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (73751.67@compuserve.com)
Sat Jun 4 03:25:55 1994

To: kerberos@MIT.EDU
Date: Fri, 03 Jun 94 18:31:32 EDT
From: 73751.67@compuserve.com


In article <2slgdi$d4u@linus.mitre.org>, <shirey@mitre.org> writes:
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> From: Rob Shirey <shirey@mitre.org>
> Newsgroups: alt.security,comp.protocols.kerberos
> Subject: Re: DES export to Europe
> Date: 2 Jun 1994 20:45:38 GMT
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> mvbr@btma06.god.bel.alcatel.be (Marc Verbruggen)
> 
> This message from 1992 may be of help.
> 
> Regards, -Rob-    Robert W. Shirey  SHIREY@MITRE.ORG
> tel 703.883.7210, sec 703.883.5749, fax 703.883.1397
> Info. Security Div., The MITRE Corp., Mail Stop Z231
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> 
> Folks,
> 
> As most of you have seen, I whipped up a crib sheet on the rules
> governing export of cryptographic products from the U.S.  I've now
> transformed that crib sheet into an ASCII to make it easy to send
> around the net  IT's attached below for your review and comment.
> 
> Ideally, this ought to be part of a larger document which covers the
> basic concepts and rules.  (This has been a back-burner work item
> within the SAAG for man moons.)
> 
> Interest in this topic is heating up.  At the last IETF meeting, Phill
> Gross asked for a plenary presentation on all of this at the next IETF
> meeting.  since the IETF meeting will be in D.C. in November, we may
> be able to have some expert from the government give the talk;
> otherwise one of us can present it.
> 
> I've put together a brief mailing list of people who should
> participate in this discussion.  We can expand it to a full-scale
> mailing list if we want, or we can keep it focused.  My primary aim is
> the accumulate an accurate picture of what the rules are; I'm *not*
> interested, at least in this forum, in protracted discussion on the
> merits of these rules.
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Steve
> 
> 
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>  
> 		 Summary of Export Rules for Products
> 		  Containing Cryptographic Functions
> 
> 			  Stephen D. Crocker
> 			    July 26, 1992
> 
>                                 For use within/by
> 
> Security     Algorithm      U.S. &      Banks &       All
> Service         Used        Canada     U.S. Subs     Other
> 
> 
> Integrity,      RSA           A           C           C
> Signature &    
> Access Ctl      DES           A           C           C
> 
>                Other          A           C           C
>              Symmetric
> 
> 
> Key             RSA           B           F           F
> Management    
>                 DES           B           E           E
> 
>                Other          B           E           E
>              Symmetric
> 
> 
> Encryption      RSA           B           G           G
>                
>                 DES           B           D           G
> 
>                Other          B           F           F
>              Symmetric
> 
> 
> Key
> 
> A   No restriction.
> 
> B   No restriction.  A label is recommend which warns that export of
>     the product requires a license.
> 
> C   A license is required.  A general Commerce Department commodity
>     license is available except for shipments to Eastern bloc
>     countries.  Individual licenses are needed for shipment to Eastern
>     bloc countries and are generally granted.
> 
> D   A State Department license is required and will generally be
>     granted.
> 
> E   An export license is needed.  Each application will be examined on
>     a case-by-case basis.  For some products, a Commerce Department
>     commodity license may be available.
> 
> F   An export license is required and is generally granted provided
>     the modulus does not exceed 512 bits.
> 
> G   An export license is required and generally will NOT be granted.


Steve,

Forgive me if these are "dumb" questions but:

	- By U.S. Subs do you mean subsidiaries of U.S. based corporations ?
	- Could you please elaborate on what "Other Symmetric" might
	  consist of ?
	- Is there (do you have) a contact (name, number, etc.) of the 
	  appropriate department within State or Commerce one would contact
	  about obtaining necessary licenses ?
	- By RSA, are you including all forms of public key encryption or
	  only certain ones ?
	- How long, in your experience, do these licenses generally take to
	  obtain ?

Thanks very much for your help and this excellent information.

Pete

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