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Re: New User Accounts

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (dean@ksr.com)
Wed Sep 2 16:01:20 1992

Date: Wed, 2 Sep 1992 15:33:46 -0400
From: dean@ksr.com
To: Derek Atkins <warlord@Athena.MIT.EDU>
Cc: dean@ksr.com, kerberos@Athena.MIT.EDU, ramus@nersc.gov (Joe Ramus)

My thought is that a service key (from the /etc/srvtab) can be used  
to get a ticket and a session key for the "kerberos-SecurID" server.

The securID code would be encrypted using this session key and sent  
to the kerberos-SecurID server, which could authenticate the code and  
change the kerberos password (private key) to be the securID code.

The kerberos-securID server ask the securID server if the code is  
valid, and performs the next code/new pin protocol with the client.  
This communication would be encrypted in the session key obtained  
previously.

When SecurID code is authenticated, the password is changed to the  
securID code, and is changed again in 30 seconds to a random key so  
the old code cannot be reused. (Thus limiting the damage if the real  
code is stolen).

If the SecurID code in not authenticated, the kerberos password  
(private key) is not changed.

The kerberos (re)initialization now proceeds as usual, kerberos sends  
a ticket for the principal encrypted in the principal's current  
kerberos key

Since the workstation has the correct SecurID code, it can decrypt  
the response and obtain the ticket and the new session key only if  
the securID authentication was successful.

I think the only way to compromise this scheme is to steal the  
service key in the /etc/srvtab file and decrypt the communication  
with the kerberos-SecurID server.  If one could do this, one could  
also steal the securID code as it were entered, by replacing the  
login or kinit program.   The problem of capturing good passwords  
with a compromised workstation is not addressed by kerberos, and only  
limited by SecurID by virtue of the changing password.

What say you?

		--Dean

Dean Anderson
KSR Computing Facilities
Kendall Square Research

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