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Re: Problems installing some software from MIT

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Stephen D. Dowdy)
Thu Mar 4 08:58:13 1999

Date: Thu, 04 Mar 1999 08:57:58 -0500
To: installers@mit.edu
From: "Stephen D. Dowdy" <sdowdy@MIT.EDU>
Cc: tregan@mit.edu

I'm not sure who to send this to, so I thought this list would surely hit
somebody that is appropriate.

The w3c is having trouble using the new installer for Coeus.  Specifically,
it fails when it gets to the FTP protion to get the Oracle installer.  My
feeling is that their machines aren't registered with MIT's main DNS
servers since they run their own DNS server and assign their own IP address
within the 18.29.xx.xx range.

The specifice machine name/ip is:  clam.w3.org/18.29.0.151

hostinfo from the Athena prompt correctly identifies the machine but I'm
not sure that's a full-proof method (i.e., perhaps the installers use a
specific DNS server and don't check out all DNS servers??)

When the user tried to download Coeus, they were asked to present
certificates.  While this works for the web, to my knowledge, certificates
won't/can't be presented during an ftp process.  So, how do certificates
solve the problem of those that might try to download MIT software from
other ISPs or those machines with 18.xx.xx.xx IP addresses that aren't
registered with the central DNS servers?


>Date: Wed, 3 Mar 1999 21:50:39 -0500
>From: Gerald Oskoboiny <gerald@w3.org>
>To: Alan Kotok <kotok@w3.org>
>Cc: sysreq@w3.org, "Stephen D. Dowdy" <sdowdy@MIT.EDU>
>Subject: Re: Problems installing some software from MIT
>X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.3us
>
>On Wed, Mar 03, 1999 at 12:10:22PM -0500, Alan Kotok wrote:
>> Could someone get back to Steve and help resolve this question.  I'm trying
>> to install their COEUS system on my desktop: clam.w3.org.
>> 
>> >Date: Wed, 03 Mar 1999 10:17:59 -0500
>> >To: Alan Kotok <kotok@w3.org>
>> >From: "Stephen D. Dowdy" <sdowdy@MIT.EDU>
>> >Subject: Re: Unsuccessful installation
>:
>> >Do you guys assign your own IP addresses over there?  That is, do you have
>> >the entire block of 18.29.xx.xx and assign them yourselves? 
>
>Yes.
>
>> >If so, do you then register them with the main MIT DNS servers?
>
>No, we run our own DNS, and as far as I know that's the only
>place they're registered.
>
>> >In order for the FTP process to work, your IP addresses must
>> >be registered.  If you aren't sure if they are registered,
>> >then send me your IP address of the machine where you are
>> >trying to install Coeus.  I can check to see if it is
>> >registered with the central DNS servers.
>
>Is this something we can do for a single machine which already
>has a name and IP within our network? (without changing its name
>or IP?)
>
>In any case, the name/IP is: clam.w3.org/18.29.0.151 ; please let
>me know if I need to do something to register it in the central
>MIT servers. Thanks,
>
>-- 
>Gerald Oskoboiny <gerald@w3.org>
>http://www.w3.org/People/Gerald/
>+1 617 905 8011 (mobile)
>

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