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daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Naomi B. Schmidt)
Wed Jul 5 10:18:51 1995
To: hotline@MIT.EDU, op@MIT.EDU
Date: Wed, 05 Jul 1995 10:18:40 EDT
From: "Naomi B. Schmidt" <nschmidt@MIT.EDU>
It sounds from this replay of mail that WHOI was not 100% at fault for the
snafu that happened a few weeks ago regarding the move of tautog.
It would probably be in the best interests of all concerned and might even
lead to process improvement (remember TQM?) if a post-mortem analysis of what
went wrong were done by those involved to see what led to the
misunderstandings that caused some amount of consternation.
Naomi
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From: "Eric F. Cunningham" <eric@salmon.whoi.edu>
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To: nschmidt@MIT.EDU
Subject: Re: WHOI Athena workstation reloacted to Bigelow from Clark
Cc: eric@salmon.whoi.edu
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Before I touched any hardware, I sent email to Hotline on 19-Jun requesting
a network address change for a pending workstation relocation:
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>From: "Eric F. Cunningham" <eric@salmon.whoi.edu>
>Message-Id: <199506191329.JAA00283@salmon.whoi.edu>
>To: hotline@mit.edu
>Subject: Athena workstation relocation at WHOI
>Cc: ecunningham@whoi.edu
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>
>Hi. The Education Office here at WHOI has requested, w/MIT's Academic
>Computing's blessings, that one of WHOI's Athena workstations be
>relocated from its current location in Clark 132 to Bigelow 213. This
>will require a change in IP address. The DECstation 3100 to be relocated
>is named tautog. The current IP address is 128.128.16.220. The new IP
>address will be 128.128.92.175. The machine has not yet been moved
>pending this IP update to the boot server's database there. When this
>change has been made, I can relocate the workstation; I don't think it's
>worth sending someone down from MIT for this. If you need more info,
>please let me know. If possible, I'd like to get this done this week.
>Thanks.
>
>=============================================================
> Eric Cunningham - WHOI Athena Site Administrator
> Desktop and Workstation Services Team
> Computer and Information Services
> Woods Hole Oceanographic Institution
> Woods Hole, MA 02543-1541 voice: (508) 457-2000 x2224
> fax: (508) 457-2174 e-mail: ecunningham@whoi.edu
>=============================================================
On 20-Jun I was told the move could commence when I queried on the status
of my call when I heard nothing in response to the above mail:
>From jjmorey@MIT.EDU Tue Jun 20 13:29 EDT 1995
>From: jjmorey@MIT.EDU
>To: eric@salmon.whoi.edu
>Subject: RE:Workstation Relocation
>Date: Tue, 20 Jun 1995 13:29:45 EDT
>
>
>Hi Eric -
>
>To late, the sparc5 deploy's already started.
>
>I hope mssg below answers your question.
>
>Stay cool
>
>JJ
>
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>JJ, please send address changes to netreq@mit.edu .
>
>I have made the change for tautog.mit.edu in Moira; the
>namespace will be updated tomorrow (Tuesday) morning.
>
>- -Ron
>
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The machine was first moved on 21-Jun, eventhough I did tell Hotline I was
moving it on 22-Jun, but only after I again had no response to the mail below:
> From eric Tue Jun 20 15:08 EDT 1995
> Date: Tue, 20 Jun 1995 15:07:58 -0400
> From: "Eric F. Cunningham" <eric>
> To: jjmorey@MIT.EDU
> Subject: RE:Workstation Relocation
> Cc: eric
>
> That should do it, hopefully. I'm gonna try to move the workstation
> Thursday (22-Jun). Should anyone there know that before I try it or
> is the update on moira enough as far as you folks are concerned?
> Thanks.
> -Eric
>
I notified Hotline on 22-Jun that the printer no longer worked, as a
follow-up to the relocation call. That's when I determined on my own that
the machine I moved was the print server.
> From eric Thu Jun 22 15:14 EDT 1995
> Date: Thu, 22 Jun 1995 15:14:29 -0400
> From: "Eric F. Cunningham" <eric>
> To: jjmorey@mit.edu
> Subject: Bad ramifications of blindly relocating a workstation
> Cc: hotline@mit.edu, eric
>
> Hi JJ. I hope you can help me. The further I go, the deeper I get and
> the saga of moving WHOI Athena workstations continues, despite my best
> efforts ;-)
>
> I got tautog (128.128.92.175) relocated and I even eventually got it
> booted. However, I found out today that tautog is (was) the printer
> server for the WHOI Athena printer scallop, an HP Laserjet 4si MX (I
> know- had I known this, I would've moved a different workstation).
> Anyway, the printer no longer works. Tautog is now abt 1.5 miles away
> from it's client printer; they are no longer on the same subnet, gateway
> or broadcast area.
>
> Rather than perpetuate this long distance relationship, I'd really
> like to make another workstation be the print server, if this is
> possible. The workstation is quahog (128.128.16.222). It resides
> on the same subnet, gateway and broadcast area as the printer scallop
> and is physically sitting right next to it. The alternative is to
> move tautog back from whence it came and relocate quahog (yuch).
[which is what happened eventually; more technical diatribe is contained
in that mail]
Had this site ever been presented with a layout of which machines control
which functions, I never would have touched the workstation that turned out
to be the print server. That this was the print server was obviously not
realized by Hotline or Net folks and I certainly had no way of knowing.
At this point I heard from Brian Melanson at Ops via telephone and we
eventually got things straightened out.
I have no doubt in my mind that this sounds absolutely like internal Athena
communications problems as well as communication problems from Athena to
WHOI.
-Eric
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