[14438] in Cypherpunks
Popular opposition doesn't mean privacy is lost
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (John E. Kreznar)
Mon May 30 18:18:47 1994
Date: Mon, 30 May 94 15:10:14 PDT
From: jkreznar@ininx.com (John E. Kreznar)
To: hughes@ah.com
Cc: cypherpunks@toad.com
In-Reply-To: Eric Hughes's message of Mon, 30 May 94 09:36:36 -0700 <9405301636.AA29635@ah.com>
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While grudgingly accepting the larger message of your posting, I qualify
this with the following observation:
Eric Hughes, 1994 May 30:
> As soon as an issue [such as privacy] becomes a partisan issue, you've
> lost, because at least half the people are against it.
Eric Hughes, in the cypherpunks welcome message:
> Cypherpunks acknowledge that those who want privacy must create it for
> themselves and not expect governments, corporations, or other large,
> faceless organizations to grant them privacy out of beneficence.
Egregious among the ``large, faceless organizations'' is the tyranny
erected by the majority, ``at least half the people'', called democratic
political government.
My interpretation of the welcome message has always been that a
cypherpunk works to create his own privacy _in spite of_ interference by
``at least half the people'', acknowledging that these people are not to
be expected to grant that privacy on their own.
I do not concede that half the people being against privacy means that
I've lost. I seek to apply what I learn through cypherpunks to create
my privacy even without their approval.
John E. Kreznar | Relations among people to be by
jkreznar@ininx.com | mutual consent, or not at all.
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