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Re: D-H key exchange - how does it work?

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Perry E. Metzger)
Fri May 20 11:19:26 1994

To: hughes@ah.com (Eric Hughes)
Cc: cypherpunks@toad.com
In-Reply-To: Your message of "Fri, 20 May 1994 08:02:57 PDT."
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Reply-To: perry@imsi.com
Date: Fri, 20 May 1994 11:10:35 -0400
From: "Perry E. Metzger" <perry@imsi.com>


Eric Hughes says:
>    It takes hours and hours of searching to find a 1024 bit strong
>    prime on a workstation.  Granted, you don't need to change very
>    often perhaps, but some people would like to change every day.
> 
> If they really want to change that often, they can buy a dedicated
> machine.  There's no good cryptographic reason to change that often,
> if the modulus is large enough.

I dunno. The paper by LaMacchia and Odlysko on how to break
Diffie-Hellman quickly once you've done a lot of precomputation on a
static modulus is sufficiently disturbing to me that I would prefer to
be able to change modulii fairly frequently if possible. If the
opponent knows a way thats a constant factor of a few tens of
thousands cheaper to do discrete logs, it might be worth their while
to spend a large sum on doing that precomputation once in the hopes of
breaking lots of traffic.

> In addition, changing the modulus can have unpleasant effects on
> traffic analysis, if not done properly.

Of what sort?

> Just fine.  The complexity of taking discrete logs is dependent on the
> largest prime factor of the modulus.

It is BELIEVED dependent -- lets be precise...

Perry

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