[2015] in Commercialization & Privatization of the Internet
Re: Dialog
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Mark D. Baushke)
Fri Jan 17 17:28:26 1992
To: emv@msen.com (Edward Vielmetti)
Cc: com-priv@uu.psi.com
In-Reply-To: Mail from emv@msen.com (Edward Vielmetti)
Date: Fri, 17 Jan 92 14:26:11 -0800
From: "Mark D. Baushke" <mdb@NSD.3Com.COM>
On Fri, 17 Jan 92 11:19 EST, emv@msen.com (Edward Vielmetti) said:
emv> In article <199201170516.AA23230@teal.csn.org> you write:
>Talk is cheap. Reality is the appearance of the word 'Connected' on
>one's CRT.
>
>Trying 'telnet dialog.com' I got nothing.
>
>We no longer have a national network.
emv> By that measure we haven't had a national network for some time now.
emv> Try 'ftp world.std.com' and go look at the Open Book Initiative stuff.
emv> Part of the internet can get to it, part can't. We can argue whether
emv> the reason is as a result of NSF policy or something else, I'm sure
emv> there's plenty of reasonable answers to be given.
Yes, but e-mail to world.std.com works because they have an MX
forwarder (relay1.uu.net) that is directly reachable from the entire
Internet.
Try finding an MX record for dlg1.dialog.com or dialog.com (as of this
morning you will fail).
It was my understanding that any site which had a domain name needed
to either have full connectivity or an MX forwarder.
It would also be nice if the SMTP port worked for everyone. From
bridge2.nsd.3com.com I ran the following test:
% traceroute dialog.com
traceroute to dialog.com (192.132.3.254), 30 hops max, 40 byte packets
1 barrnet-gw.3Com.COM (129.213.128.1) 4 ms 3 ms 3 ms
2 SU5.BARRNET.NET (131.119.25.28) 7 ms 8 ms 17 ms
3 E-NSS.BARRNET.NET (131.119.254.244) 42 ms 10 ms 10 ms
4 t3-1.cnss9.t3.nsf.net (140.222.9.2) 21 ms 14 ms 11 ms
5 t3-0.cnss11.t3.nsf.net (140.222.11.1) 12 ms 13 ms 12 ms
6 fcnss12.t3.nsf.net (192.103.60.6) 14 ms 20 ms 13 ms
7 192.103.60.10 (192.103.60.10) 38 ms 39 ms 38 ms
8 dlg1.dialog.com (192.132.3.2) 39 ms * 47 ms
% telnet dialog.com 25
Trying...
Connected to dialog.com.
Escape character is '^]'.
Access denied.
Connection closed by foreign host.
Unless this 'Access denied' response is intended to be temporary, it
does not seem like a very good idea.
Later,
-- Mark
mdb@NSD.3Com.COM
Member of the League for Programming Freedom
-- write to league@prep.ai.mit.edu
