[2012] in Commercialization & Privatization of the Internet
Re: The Dialog Situation - a brief report from the field.
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Lars Poulsen)
Fri Jan 17 15:20:07 1992
From: lars@spectrum.CMC.COM (Lars Poulsen)
Date: Fri, 17 Jan 92 20:18:21 GMT
Apparently-To: com-priv@psi.com
In article <9201171739.AA17491@fernwood.mpk.ca.us>
geoff@fernwood.mpk.ca.us (the terminal of Geoff Goodfellow) writes:
> 1) When Dialog signed up to ANS, ANS didn't tell Dialog that their status
> as a COmmercial customer would prevent them from having "full" Internet
> access.
> 3) Dialog found out by customer complaints they did not have "full"
> Internet access when users couldn't access the service with telnet dialog.com
> 4) Before Christmas, Dialog requested that ANS change Dialog's status from
> COmmercial to R&E. ANS has not made the change from CO to RE as of this day.
I am sure that we all draw different lessons from this. For me one
lesson is that a COmmercial network had better connect to a CIX member.
I have had no problems with connectivity to either RE sites, or to CO
sites attached to CIX members. Occasionally, we even manage to get
packets to CO subscribers on remote regionals attached across the T1
NSF.NET (from which I gather that those regionals are probably not CIX
members). The ONLY sites that I consistently cannot reach are the ANS CO
customers.
This makes sense to me; the backbone carrier should be able to surmise
that if at least one end of the connection is RE, the traffic is AUP
conformant; after all, that is what the RE classification means.
I do not have enough understanding of the special relationship between
NSF and ANS to figure out whether ANS is prohibited from joining the
CIX, or they are just plain ornery, suffering from the "IBM syndrome"
(we are so big that we don't have to conform to anybody else's
specification). But if there isn't anything that prohibits ANS from
joining CIX, then I think they should be required to.
Assuming of course that the CIX makes membership available on a
non-discriminatory and non-predatory basis.
(Will speaking out in this forum cause my company network number to be
blackhole'd from NSF routing tables ? Naw, only the IRS does that:-) )
--
/ Lars Poulsen, SMTS Software Engineer
CMC Rockwell lars@CMC.COM
