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A Tiny More on Infolan

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (George Abe)
Thu Jan 9 17:49:38 1992

Date: Thu, 9 Jan 92 18:49 GMT
From: George Abe <0004247140@mcimail.com>
To: com-priv <com-priv@psi.com>
To: Dave <Dave.Morton@ecrc.de>
To: matsb <matsb@sics.se>

Some Clarifications on Infonet Services

 

(1)  X.25 Services (Product Name: Infonet)

 

     SVCs and PVCs 

     Runs on NCR-Comten and Siemens packet switches. (Identical 

          with Deutsche Bundespost equipment).

     Worldwide coverage

 

(2)  IP Services (Product Name: Infolan)

 

     Infolan runs on cisco AGS 3+ routers.  Overlayed on a TDM 

     net (supplied by N.E.T.) and, in some cases, raw digital 

     circuits.  NO X.25 overlay.  No tunneling.  The X.25 net is 

     a geographic and dialup extension of Infolan, not the 

     transmission platform.

  

     Infolan has a gateway to our X.25 network.  If users want 

     dial X.3 access to Telnet, no problem, provided the user has 

     a good protocol converter. 

 

     Routers and TDMs provisioned in Hong Kong, Europe and North 

     America under one autonomous system.

 

     PVCs only, for now.

 

True, Infolan does not have Internet access to the open DNS.  

This may change.  But given our non-Internet, intra-institutional 

market approach, I'm not sure that I need it.  I also don't know 

the mechanism or commercial value.  

 

George Abe

 

 

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     Date:     Thu Jan 09, 1992  3:58 am  EST

     From:     Dave Morton

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     TO:     * George Abe / MCI ID: 424-7140

     TO:       com priv

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     Subject:  Re:  A Little Bit on Infolan

      

     Infolan is exclusively X.25 based - right ?

     Or is this just here in Europe ?

 

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     Date:     Thu Jan 09, 1992  4:28 am  EST

     From:     matsb

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     TO:     * George Abe / MCI ID: 424-7140

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     Subject:  Re: A Little Bit on Infolan

      

     A comment,        

 

          Thanks  to Mr.  Jack Haverty of Oracle in pointing  out 

          that  Infolan represents a non-ANS,  non-CIX option for 

          commercial  connectivity.    Infonet's  IP  service  is 

          merchandised  under the product name of Infolan and  is 

          sold  worldwide.   We have cisco routers in Hong  Kong, 

          US, Canada and Europe fully meshed under common network 

          management.    Infolan   was  featured  as  a   Leading 

          Technology  Product  in  the  December  issue  of  Data 

          Communications magazine.  There's nothing else like it.  

 

     You should note that Infolan only provides (to my knowledge) 

     so called Private Virtual networks using X.25, and now IP as 

     well.

 

     Internet  access  to the open DNS supported Internet is  not 

     part of their offering.

 

     --mats    

 

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     TO:       Dave Morton

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              Infolan is exclusively X.25 based - right ?

              Or is this just here in Europe ?

 

     No,  wrong  in both cases.  Infolan uses a mix of ITT-COMTEN 

     equipmnet  for X.25 and SDLC services,  as well as  dial  up 

     aync, at least this was true a couple of years ago. Now they 

     have also introduced cisco based Internet IP private virtual 

     networks on top of it.

 

     I  am not sure if they run the IP stuff over X.25 or if they 

     run a TDM type bandwidth muxing layer below.  Maybe  someone 

     here could inform of this?

 

     --matrs

 

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