[1862] in Commercialization & Privatization of the Internet
Re: Commercial Use Scenario CONTINUED aka Com-bits Divined
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Guy Almes)
Fri Jan 3 16:48:37 1992
Date: Fri, 3 Jan 92 16:44:27 EST
From: Guy Almes <almes@ans.net>
To: Marvin Sirbu <ms6b+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Cc: com-priv@psi.com, cook@tmn.com (Gordon Cook)
In-Reply-To: Your message of Fri, 3 Jan 1992 09:33:17 -0500 (EST)
> Excerpts From Captions of bboard.com-priv:
> 3-Jan-92 Commercial Use Scenario CON.. Gordon Cook@tmn.com (6993)
> > I am not sure that I understand your preceding paragraph. i sounds like
> > you are saying that if I am a mid-level - say for example that I am
> > Suranet and I sign your connectivity agreement, then I am agreeing that I
> > have some institutions that are attached which wish to receive commercial
> > transmissions from ANS. My institutions that wish to receive the
> > commercial transmissions, presumably wish to return them. (ie this is
> > what you mean by bi-directional) You say that networks are classified by
> > the acceptable use policy they choose to conform to. Does it follow that
> > if I sign a connectivity agreement with ANS, I am agreeing to classify at
> > least a PART of the institutions attached to my network as commercial and
> > pay com bit surcharges on their traffic? This must be correct because
> > then the next exchange between us makes sense
>
> I have no affiliation with ANS or a mid-level but I have read carefully
> the ANS agreement, including its appendix C which gives the formulas for
> calculating charges. My understanding is NOT consistent with the above
> paragraph. The way I read the rules, if SURANET signs the connectivity
> agreement, their R&E attached customers are free to exchange traffic
> (both receive and send) to commericial customers of ANS with no cost
> implication to SURANET whatsoever. This is because the formula
> specifies that COMBITS between a commerical user and R&E site are
> counted as R&E for mid-level supportinge R&E entity while counting as
> commericial for the network supporting the commerical entity at the
> other end of the communication. Thus no commericial COMBITs are credited
> to SURANET for this traffic exchange. Under these circumstances, 100%
> of SURANET's traffic is counted as R&E traffic and there is no surcharge
> to SURANET for agreeing to carry this traffic.
>
> SURANET incurs commercial COMBITs ONLY if a customer of SURANET declares
> itself to be a commercial user (as opposed to an R&E user) -- and
> SURANET agrees to accept such customers. At that point, traffic between
> the commercial customer atttached to SURANET and commericial customers
> attached to ANS are counted as commercial traffic for both SURANET and
> ANS, and SURANET will be liable for a surcharge in proportion to the
> amount of such traffic. That is why the statistics are collected based
> on origin-destination pairs, and not simply based on the sender or the
> destination. You need to be able to classify BOTH the origin and
> destination in order to determine how the traffic is to be accounted for.
>
> Would someone from ANS please verify this interpretation?
>
> Marvin Sirbu
> Engineering and Public Policy
> Carnegie Mellon University
>
>
Marvin,
It's as good as you've said.
-- Guy
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