[1354] in Commercialization & Privatization of the Internet
Re: What is the Definition of Infrastructure?
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (stev knowles)
Tue Sep 17 14:15:43 1991
Date: Tue, 17 Sep 91 14:14:56 -0400
To: Marc Horowitz <marc@MIT.EDU>
From: stev@ftp.com (stev knowles)
Cc: Ittai Hershman <ittai@shemesh.ans.net>, com-priv@psi.com
Well, the DMV does have a separate classfication for commercial
vehicles. Does your truck's plate have "commercial" on it? If so,
then you *are* paying extra to drive it around town.
as you should know, all trucks in Mass registered as trucks have commercial
plates. as does my personal pickup. i dont pay extra for commercial (i dont
belueve anyway, i dont have a car to compair the rates to). so, mass
is cleaving the population based on what you drive, not what you do when you
drive it. as a side note, it costs *more* to register a motorcycle in mass
than it does to register the truck. in theory, the extra is to pay for
motorcycle training, which mass doesnt provide..
Also, look at what FTP pays for a phone line, compared to what you pay
at home. Now, with telco, the division is residence/business, not
RE/C, but there is still a precedent for separate prices for what is
essentially the same service. (For extra features, a business will
pay even more.)
they are basing this on the precieved amount of traffic each will generate.
in the internet world, i would imagine that the educational people use much
mroe of the bandwidth than the commercail people use. so, i suppose they
shoudl support us!
Notice, however, that neither the DMV or telco try to figure out what
you are doing with your car or phone. If you use your car to drive to
a client site, or call a customer from your home phone, they don't
care.
on the other hand, they dont make me sign a pledge that i wont use my home
phone for business. . . .
My feelings exactly. Devise a system where FTP is a commercial site,
MIT is a research/education site, and bill (and route packets for, if
necessary) each accordingly. Make Westinghouse's R&D division's net
research (since that is their primary purpose), and don't worry about
the occasional commercial packet (unless it becomes a serious
problem). It seems to me that you guys are wasting a lot of time and
effort (and net bandwidth!) trying to solve what seems to be a
previously solved problem.
on the contrary, what i meant was charging people based on the pipe they
connect with, not the type of traffic they are sending. the pipe size is the
free restrictor to keep them from flooding the net. what difference does it
make what they send through the internet, when we dont care what they send
through the US mail ('cept, or course, if it violates the usage
restrictions:) in fact, the US mail charges companies who sort mail *less*
to send it than they charge *you*.
Of course, the NSFnet use issues still exist, but we all know
commercial traffic crosses the NSFnet sometimes. I don't see
anybody's connections getting pulled.
Marc
there are (i am sure) people who either dont have access, or have company's
with heavily restricted access, because of their lawyers reading that AUP,
and screaming.
