[12542] in Commercialization & Privatization of the Internet
Re: About the creation of new 3-letter domain(s)
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Stephen Williams)
Fri May 20 20:09:08 1994
From: sdw@meaddata.com (Stephen Williams)
To: montanaro@ausable.crd.ge.com
Date: Fri, 20 May 1994 09:10:42 -0400 (EDT)
Cc: Mark-Ludwig@uai.com, com-priv@psi.com
In-Reply-To: <9405200229.AA04436@ausable.crd.Ge.Com> from "Skip Montanaro" at May 19, 94 10:29:46 pm
>
> Mark R. Ludwig writes:
> I like:
...
> This thread was started by someone suggesting a PVT domain be created. Jon
> Postel responded that PVT would be as hard to administer as the COM domain
> is now and referred folks to RFC 1480 for alternatives. RFC 1480 talks about
I don't see that it would be such a problem:
You could use an automated listserv like system to add/modify name
translations automatically, secured by a key.
Fuzzy lookups could be done by sending mail to the listserv with
matching specifications. Returned results would probably have to be
limited and use for mailing list creation would have to be voted on.
You should be able to specify any type/value attribute pairs that you
want for personal info. This could be used to identify you (as in my
name, there are a sea of Stephen/Steve Williams's) or let people know
things that you don't mind sharing. Even location (or a path of
recent locations) would be very good at disambiguating you.
My preference for a fqdn would be NICK.FULL.NAME.<PER|PER.NET|PVT|...>
Where NICK is a nickname, handle, interest, serial number, whatever
that makes the full.name unique.
To make use of this I guess you would have to have a wildcard MX
record for the domain and a private, modified, DNS server for the
domain. <postmaster|admin|info|...>@PER.NET or
postmaster@full.name.per.net could be used as the automated addresses.
> the US domain and is heavily into naming relatively stable organizations
> like libraries and schools, but rather thin on naing more mobile
> individuals. A whole spate of (flawed) counterproposals followed. Might I
> suggest instead that perhaps 10-100 new top-level domains be created, each
> with 2-4 meaningful letters (e.g. PVT means something to me - I can remember
> it pretty easily - but XOQ doesn't) and that effort be expended to make it
> easier to administer relatively flat domains so they can be rather more full
> before they become burdensome to administer. After all, I think most people
> would prefer shorter domain names rather than longer. I much prefer
> montanaro@crd.ge.com or skip@automatrix.com to
Absolutely! X.400 for instance is silly and useless.
sdw@lig.net beats 70+chars of garbage any day.
Fixed addresses only suit a minority of people.
I even suggested to the post office/local postmaster once that they
have national PO Boxes that are automatically forwarded to current
address for people who know they will be moving. (Like independant
consultants.) That way you could have a complete address of:
99934-1234-5555 and use the current system of forwarding to get it
to your current address. The optimization I saw was shorter address,
permanent id without constant forwarding notices, a little income for
them, quicker delivery if the regional centers all shared the same
database, etc. His response was that the US Post was sensitive to
keeping any information on behalf of people that pertained to real
location vs. central address. (Of course, for $1 you can obtain
forwarding info for any address, in person. And anyone can get the
address of a business using a po box.)
He did say that anyone could do something like the above: you may
forward, for free postage, mail sent to you on someone elses behalf.
He said this is done all the time by services. You get a private po
box and they forward the mail to you by just stamping the real
destination on the packages/letters and giving them back to the postal
service.
I didn't like that because of the extra delay.
> george_montanaro@xyz.1212.555.518.scotia.ny.us. Besides, that domain address
> conflicts with my four year-old's... :-)
>
> --
> Skip Montanaro (montanaro@ausable.crd.ge.com)
> Now working for Automatrix. Details at 11.
sdw
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