[12384] in Commercialization & Privatization of the Internet
Re: About the creation of new 3-letter domain(s)
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Masataka Ohta)
Tue May 17 10:56:12 1994
From: Masataka Ohta <mohta@necom830.cc.titech.ac.jp>
To: dcrocker@mordor.stanford.edu (Dave Crocker)
Date: Tue, 17 May 94 13:19:18 JST
Cc: klensin@infoods.unu.edu, PAUL@tdr.com, PVM@isi.edu, bigz@rice.edu,
com-priv@psi.com, hostmaster@internic.net, hostmaster@nic.ddn.mil,
ja@ess.cs.ucl.ac.uk, namedroppers@rs.internic.net, pullen@darpa.mil,
postel@isi.edu
In-Reply-To: <199405162047.NAA09604@Mordor.Stanford.EDU>; from "Dave Crocker" at May 16, 94 1:47 pm
Dave,
It's me who suggested to use postal or phone code to partition big zones
in bigz mailing list. I still think that 3 or 5 digits are much more human
friendly than 20 or 30 letters of alphabets for geographical domain
names.
People are familiar with their phone numbers and postal codes.
> > [apt/ste.]number.street.city.region.postal-code.country
> >
> reasons that range from privacy to security to local custom and general
>
> We have a dilemma.
As postal or phone code partitions areas small enough and the partition
tends to evenly divide population, not the size of area, you don't need a
lot more sub domains.
name.postal-code.country
or
name.phone-code.country
with first come first served base is practically enough, I think.
Anyway, most of the contries in the world do not have the address structure of
[apt/ste.]number.street.city.region.postal-code.country
> I.e., for those with particularly extreme privacy concerns, yes we need
> to put in a special mechanism.
For the privacy purpose, registration authority should not check the actual
location of registees. You don't have to register yourself under the
postal-code domain of your real address. That's all.
> My primary point is that we have a global addressing scheme, as defined
> for postal recpients. I'm suggesting we use it. I was not really
> believing that my terse representation of it was complete. (For
> example, real postal codes go in different places depending on
> country.
Some contry have national standard to number various regions, which could
also be useful. But, in general, people are much familiar with their
postal codes or phone codes.
> For our purposes, I'd hope we standardize the format more
> that that, but do assume that things are more elaborate than I
> represented.)
You don't have to investigate all the contries in the world. There
are a lot of variations and how it should be used should be determined
by the person who is delegated 2 letter contry code from IANA.
For your purpose, dividing "US" domain in some US-specific standard
manner is enough.
Otherwise, the result will be quite lengthy and reversed domain name
such as tpc.int.
> Let me emphasize that I am very much NOT suggesting 'turning
> registration over' to the postal system in the sense of creating a new
> registration system. I am suggesting that we re-use the EXISTING
> registrations. They're there. They works. It can be used with no
> additional assignment activity.
It will be good if we can delegate the management job to post offices
in the future.
Masataka Ohta
