[12203] in Commercialization & Privatization of the Internet
Re: "Arizona Lawyers Form Company..."
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Barney Wolff)
Mon May 9 12:18:39 1994
Date: Mon, 9 May 94 10:33 EDT
From: Barney Wolff <barney@databus.com>
To: "Rob Raisch, The Internet Company" <raisch@internet.com>
Cc: com-priv@psi.com
> Date: Mon, 9 May 1994 06:30:30 -0700 (PDT)
> From: "Rob Raisch, The Internet Company" <raisch@internet.com>
> Subject: Re: "Arizona Lawyers Form Company..."
> To: Barney Wolff <barney@databus.com>
> Cc: com-priv@psi.com
> Content-Length: 1840
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> Barney, perhaps you should go back, grab a cup of coffee and actually
> read my response? In no way did I threaten PSI. I would have thought
> that the tone of my response would have made it painfully clear that I
> was predicting future reactions, and in no way, shape or form, support
> any form of network terrorism.
>
> -- </rr> Rob Raisch, The Internet Company
I did not intend to suggest that you personally would mail-bomb PSI. I
did and do suggest that mail-bombing the miscreant's provider is
neither right nor necessary. If it's not necessary, it's not
efficient. Did you perhaps mean "effective?" But events will decide
this issue. I imagine the rate of pings to pericles.com must be rather
high. PSI may yet regret publishing the domain before the link is in
service!
And do let us keep in mind that oxygenated water is so ridiculous that it
may well be C&S having a laugh at the expense of Peter Lewis of the Times
and all their many net friends.
> On Sun, 8 May 1994, Barney Wolff wrote:
>
> > > Date: Sun, 8 May 1994 13:32:21 -0700 (PDT)
> > > From: "Rob Raisch, The Internet Company" <raisch@internet.com>
> > >
> > > This would suggest to me that the next most visible target for
> > > mail bombing would be their service provider, and this I think is the tact
> > > that will prove an efficient strategy against C&S' particular brand of
> > > socially unacceptable behavior. I would imagine that Marty Schoffstall
> > > will have something to say about C&S' behavior when PSI's livelihood is
> > > threatened.
> >
> > May I suggest that threatening PSI is both wrong and unnecessary? Just
> > two days ago, some jerk sent a fake-contest scam to the PCIP list. Rather
> > than sending abuse to the jerk, I sent a polite message to the postmaster
> > of the bbs from which he posted, with a copy of the offending message.
> > A day later I got a reply stating that the jerk's account had been
> > canceled - also polite. No muss, no fuss, no threats, but mission
> > accomplished.
> >
> > No responsible provider is likely to tolerate C&S-type behavior, and until
> > we see one who does, there is no need to talk of threats. A provider who
> > willfully abets C&S-type behavior should be punished by having his decent
> > customers find other arrangements - a threat likely to be far more effective
> > than mail-bombing.
> >
> > "Oxygenated water" indeed! Is it possible that all this is really just
> > a net.hoax?
Barney Wolff <barney@databus.com>