[11407] in Commercialization & Privatization of the Internet

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daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Huon N. Dang)
Thu Mar 31 19:51:04 1994

Date: Thu, 31 Mar 1994 14:02:38 +0800
From: hnd@chevron.com (Huon N. Dang)
To: com-priv@psi.com, nowhere@bsu-cs.bsu.edu
Cc: hnd@chevron.com


Can someone out there remove my email off ot this mailing list.
Thanks a million.

-Huon (hnd@chevron.com)

 

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> Subject; Questionable commercial connections
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> nabil@world.net (Aaron Nabil) writes:
> >Caveat:  I've removed the CIX members *I* know of, and any obvious end-users
> >the Sprint is providing transit for.  I've also ordered them in roughly what
> >I consider to be from most to least likely.  This list specifically does not
> >include direct sprintlink IP (ie, the end user is in Sprintlink's AS).
> 
> Personally, I don't know why you waste time worrying about this when there
> are commercial providers with much more questionable connections. We pay
> for our pipe from a commercial provider and are risking the CIX routing
> issue. I know of providers who are scamming their connections from .edu
> sites, getting a free or cheaper ride for their traffic instead of buying a
> real commercial connection pipe.  If the commercial IP world (including
> CIX) is losing out if anything its through that practise.  Personally I
> don't think the government should fund  or subsidize any pipes but only be
> a customer like any other (if perhaps larger), and let the market deal with
> providing the pipes in the most efficient manner (if ISPs can rationally
> cooperate in their own interest to do so).
>  Oh, and I think there may even be CIX members in this category, where all
> of their traffic is going through .edu routes no matter where it is headed,
> and it seems like the govt. is essentially not giving ISPs a level playing
> field by playing favorites even at the local ISP level (obviously at the
> national level there are issues to be resolved, but at the local level
> there isn't a reason for this).
> 
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