[11356] in Commercialization & Privatization of the Internet
Re: Some simple questions (was Re:The whole CIX concept is flawed)
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Simon Poole)
Wed Mar 30 06:49:54 1994
To: nowhere@bsu-cs.bsu.edu (Anonymous)
Date: Wed, 30 Mar 1994 07:58:20 +0200 (MET DST)
Cc: com-priv@psi.com
In-Reply-To: <9403291603.AA28481@bsu-cs.bsu.edu> from "Anonymous" at Mar 29, 94 11:03:21 am
From: Simon Poole <poole@magnolia.eunet.ch>
> No. Providing routine between two ISPs, or an ISP and all the CIX providers
> benefits BOTH sides in increased conectivity (and potential increased usage
> leading to people buying larger pipes). A simple question, if two ISPs
> connect and route traffic, WHY should the smaller ISP pay the larger ISP?
For example because the smaller ISP benfits more than the larger?
Just consider investments a large ISP has made, infrastructure that has
been built (how many transatlantic and international lines does -your-
company pay?).
> We could just as well try to bill the CIX, or individual ISPs for routing
> their traffic, we just can't get away with it since we are small enough
> they don't care whether we route them or not.
Exactly, welcome to the real world.
> I'd like a simple explanation of why, other than the fact they can get
> away with it, CIX or any other ISP should be paid for routing that benefits
> both sides. We'll pay for the pipe to connect to the net, but why should we
> join CIX?? What do we get, aside from not being cut off? (ie "protection")
Sigh, one more try and then I give up:
- you are running are business?
- you are selling your customers connectivity to other nets?
- do you have have agreements with these other networks?
- would your customers be happy if they found out that you
had -no- agreements?
This has -nothing- to do if anybody intends to cut you off or not, getting
agreements from your business partners is simply the reasonable thing to
do (not even thinking about the legal ramifications). As has already been
said numerous times, you can go out and try to obtain seperate agreements
from all the interesing ISP's, or you can join the CIX.
Simon
