[11197] in Commercialization & Privatization of the Internet
Re: Options (was Re: What is an "Internet reseller"?)
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Karl Denninger)
Thu Mar 24 21:57:06 1994
From: karl@mcs.com (Karl Denninger)
To: tenney@netcom.com (Glenn S. Tenney)
Date: Wed, 23 Mar 1994 21:58:53 -0600 (CST)
Cc: com-priv@psi.com, karl@mcs.com
In-Reply-To: <199403232010.MAA03706@netcom9.netcom.com> from "Glenn S. Tenney" at Mar 23, 94 12:10:09 pm
> At 5:15 PM 3/22/94 -0600, Dave Nordlund wrote:
> >If I have 32 users on a terminal server (running SLIP) through a router
> >on a 56 Kb link the link is not any more loaded than with 32 users
> >logged in to shell accounts doing the same thing over a 56 Kb link from
> >the UNIX box. ...
> > COMPUTING SERVICES NORDLUND@UKANVM.CC.UKANS.EDU
> > UNIVERSITY OF KANSAS 913/864-0450
>
>
> Karl,
>
> Here's an example of a university on the Net (actually, I'd suspect it's
> the same as every university on the net). None of their machines are
> directly connected to any ISP. Isn't the university itself an ISP (in your
> terms) since they are routing packets from multiple machines (multiple IP
> addresses) via a router to the net?
Nope. The IP space which is being routed there belongs to the University.
They are not engaged in the business of selling that space nor the access.
This is exactly the same situation you have with a large corporation that
happens to have 1,000 employees -- and a Sun on every desk.
> If so, then EVERY university must (again, by your definitions) join the
> CIX... Let's see, places such as Stanford have a thousand machines all
> passing packets through BARRNet to the Net... None of those machines is
> directly connected to BARRNet (they go through routers), so Stanford would
> have to join the CIX????? Yeah, right!
>
>If not, then why is any university a "legit" exemption from your definitions...?
Because they're not selling the services to others (engaged in the practice
of IP packet resale).
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