[11167] in Commercialization & Privatization of the Internet
Re: He's dead, Jim
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Karl Denninger)
Wed Mar 23 19:26:16 1994
From: karl@mcs.com (Karl Denninger)
To: nelson@crynwr.com (Russell Nelson)
Date: Tue, 22 Mar 1994 23:12:56 -0600 (CST)
Cc: com-priv@lists.psi.com
In-Reply-To: <m0pjAiU-000IBdC@crynwr> from "Russell Nelson" at Mar 22, 94 12:58:00 pm
> Date: Mon, 21 Mar 94 19:06:26 EST
> From: Dick St.Peters
>
> ... my perspective differs from Matthew's:
>
> - I do not want to be a provider
> - I do want to be a customer
> - The price of becoming a customer is high here
> - I'd like to lower the cost for myself and some others by sharing
> a line with them
> - The CIX says if I do this I'm a reseller
> - The CIX fee would make our costs go up, not down
>
> Exactly what Dick sez, in spades for me.
>
> But there's something here that no one has pointed out. The CIX is an
> agreement between providers to carry direct customer's traffic. It
> does NOT disallow people from carrying indirect traffic. And it seems
> that the status quo is to carry indirect traffic.
I've pointed it out several times. Most of the people who are bitching on
this list haven't bothered to read what I wrote.
> Let's not assign an unreasonable degree of unreasonableness to the current
> CIX members.
Correct. MCSNet, in particular, is not interested in blocking traffic from
these kinds of "customer share" arrangements. We might be interested in
blocking traffic from unruly sites that ARE providers and through one
device or another are evading joining the CIX. Whether or not this is
going to come to pass in any particular case is a question properly
reserved for when the situation arises.
If it is in our best interest as I see it to pass the packets they will be
passed. If not, they won't be. I can't make any kind of categorical
statement about this, as right now I just don't know what is going to arise
in any particular case.
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