[11087] in Commercialization & Privatization of the Internet
Re: ANS and the CIX - have they really connected?
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Dick St.Peters)
Mon Mar 21 21:25:05 1994
Date: Sat, 19 Mar 94 17:10:40 EST
From: stpeters@swan-song.crd.ge.com (Dick St.Peters)
To: karl@mcs.com, gwh@crl.com
Cc: matthew@echo.com, com-priv@psi.com, cook@path.net, fair@apple.com,
stpeters@dawn.crd.ge.com, washburn@cix.org
Reply-To: <stpeters@dawn.crd.ge.com>
>From gwh@crl.com Sat Mar 19 15:15:15 1994
>From: karl@mcs.com (Karl Denninger)
>>Note: There's some heat in here. My blood boils when I read posts from
>>people who are continually trying to devise a way around a voluntary
>>associative agreement!
>
>This is in some ways the crux of the problem. From the top down,
>CIX as it is was intended to be and appears to be a volountary
>associative agreement to keep settlements down. From the bottom up,
>as Matthew keeps pointing out (and Dick seconded) CIX has set
>itself up to be a cartel, with a buy-in level designed to prevent
>any small fry competitors from setting up in an entirely legitimate
>(i.e. guaranteed routing) manner.
While I agree with this (more or less, "cartel" is a rather too strong
language for my taste - the problems seem more like side effects than
evil intent by design), my perspective differs from Matthew's:
- I do not want to be a provider
- I do want to be a customer
- The price of becoming a customer is high here
- I'd like to lower the cost for myself and some others by sharing
a line with them
- The CIX says if I do this I'm a reseller
- The CIX fee would make our costs go up, not down
Now I know from Karl's response to my last post that he can't read when
his blood's boiling, but surely there are at least some people on this
list capable of understanding this simple concept: there is more than
one way to run a CIX.
>>Either you're for us or again' us.
Karl, you have an attitude problem :-)
--
Dick St.Peters, Gatekeeper, The Pearly Gateway; currently at:
GE Corporate R&D, Schenectady, NY stpeters@dawn.crd.ge.com
