[11054] in Commercialization & Privatization of the Internet
Re: ANS and the CIX - have they really connected? (fwd)
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Russell Nelson)
Sat Mar 19 00:52:57 1994
Date: Fri, 18 Mar 94 10:41 EST
From: nelson@crynwr.com (Russell Nelson)
To: com-priv@psi.com
In-Reply-To: <m0phZRi-000BbeC@mercury.mcs.com> (karl@mcs.com)
From: karl@mcs.com (Karl Denninger)
Date: Fri, 18 Mar 1994 01:58:18 -0600 (CST)
> (only a single IP address assigned, not at all intended for routing,
> just a way that a customer can trade up from VT100 to real GUI interfaces)
> (I feel that those customers should be able to get the CIX access
> also, considering that they are not people who we are "reselling" IP
> access to, they are just using IP as a personal interface into the net.
Disagree.
You ARE reselling IP access to those people. If not, then you could
firewall the accounts so they could see only your hosts via IP. But
that's not what you're doing, nor is it what we're doing.
MR.net does the same thing, yet they're not a member of the CIX.
I suspect that if you asked the customer what he was buying, he would
perkily say "IP access to the net". If that's not IP resale I don't know
what is.
Okay, what if I run the ``term'' program? It runs a reliable,
byte-sequenced protocol over a serial line that is NOT IP, yet it
allows people to open TCP ports on their local machine. Someone could
easily write a Winsock or "TCP" stack that runs over term. Everyone
using ``term'' is using the same IP address (that of the server), yet
everyone is in a different place.
As far as they're concerned, they have IP access to the net. Is this not
the same as IP resale??
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