[11034] in Commercialization & Privatization of the Internet
Re: ANS and the CIX - have they really connected?
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Karl Denninger)
Fri Mar 18 15:15:09 1994
From: karl@mcs.com (Karl Denninger)
To: fair@apple.com (Erik E. Fair)
Date: Fri, 18 Mar 1994 10:24:04 -0600 (CST)
Cc: cook@path.net, com-priv@psi.com, washburn@cix.org
In-Reply-To: <1302.763982874@apple.com> from "Erik E. Fair" at Mar 18, 94 01:27:54 am
>
> Gordon,
> I have been making my observations by reading the Border
> Gateway Protocol (BGP) Autonomous System (AS) paths that come to me
> through CERFNET. My router is two hops away from the CIX (T1 SMDS to
> CERFNET UCOP POP, T1 to CIX).
>
> Because we are told that all CIX members:
>
> 1. connect to the CIX with a T1, and
Not necessarily.
> 2. speak BGP to the CIX for routing exchange,
Yes, perhaps through another AS.
> I can look at my tables and tell you who is directly connected to the
> CIX, which is what I did.
>
> Not everyone with an AS number is an Internet Service Provider or
> Regional Network. So once we get one AS hop away from the CIX, I can't
> tell you doodly squat without knowing something more about the
> organizations involved.
Nothing in the agreement(s) prohibit transit use. They just give one
model. In fact, the CIX charges an additional fee (they have to buy a
port and CSU/DSU) for a direct attachment.
Sprint, for example, will provide transit to the CIX for resellers <provided>
you are a member. This is what MCSNet has done. We purchased transit
service from Sprint, and a membership from the CIX. That's perfectly
legit according to both the CIX and Sprint. And, in the end, that's all
that matters (that all parties agree).
We're AS 3365.
ANS will do the same thing, and is perfectly within its rights to do so.
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