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Re: Microsoft Hotmail

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Chris Tobkin)
Wed Jan 27 15:45:40 1999

Date: 	Tue, 26 Jan 1999 18:42:36 -0600
Reply-To: Chris Tobkin <tobkin@JAWS.UMN.EDU>
From: Chris Tobkin <tobkin@JAWS.UMN.EDU>
To: BUGTRAQ@NETSPACE.ORG
In-Reply-To:  <36ADFD04.1FD6375D@karemor.com> from "Daniel P. Stasinski" at Jan
              26, 99 10:36:04 am

> I contacted Microsoft/Hotmail asking them to close the account
> of that was listed in the backdoored tcp wrapper source code.
> I also forwarded the offending code.
>
> The word back from them is that they will not close it.  Theft
> of passwords and hacking does not violate thier terms of
> service.

Funny, their policy must have changed.  They promptly replied when
I sent them an email to have the kitandjp@hotmail account closed
due to the password gathering nature of the account when I reported
the sshd exploit trojan...

Here is an excerpt from their email to me..

-- Excerpt from reply ---
From: policy@hotmail.com
To: Super-User <root@jaws.umn.edu>
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1998 15:23:09 -0800
Message-ID: <882566BE.00807665.00@service2.jsnet.com>
X-Lotus-FromDomain: HOTMAIL
Subject: Re: Illegitimate account


Thank you for your message to Hotmail. We are aware of the account that is
gathering passwords illegally and we have terminated the account. Thank you
for your message to Hotmail. We are aware of the account that is
gathering passwords illegally and we have terminated the account.  We
suggest that you change all of your passwords.

[...]

then there is a lot of garbage about hotmail and how they won't ask for
passwords, spam, etc.

Best Regards,

Hotmail Policy Enforcement
abuse@hotmail.com (408) 222-7011
Forward full message and header of email in question


--- EOF ---

Maybe this is Microsoft's newest way of getting rid of unix.. :)

// chris
tobkin@umn.edu

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