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Re: IRIX 6.2 passwordless accounts exploit?

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Kevin Hawkins)
Wed Sep 30 13:35:56 1998

Date: 	Wed, 30 Sep 1998 11:51:35 -0500
Reply-To: Kevin Hawkins <khawkins@NCSA.UIUC.EDU>
From: Kevin Hawkins <khawkins@NCSA.UIUC.EDU>
X-To:         "D.A. Harris" <rodmur@ECST.CSUCHICO.EDU>
To: BUGTRAQ@NETSPACE.ORG
In-Reply-To:  <19980928161435.A4581@ecst.csuchico.edu>

HP-UX exhibits the same behavior.  Actually, when I questioned this
behavior on comp.sys.hp.hpux a while back (look for the subject
"Better remote access denial than securetty?" through DejaNews if
you're interested), the only response I got took the approach that
it was more of a feature than a bug.  But I didn't think the arguments
given were a strong enough case against just dropping root login
attempts that weren't at the console.

So maybe the vendors don't see it as a bug?  I certainly do.

                Kevin


At 04:14 PM 9/28/98 -0700, D.A. Harris wrote:
>
>Actually, something that I think is a bug in IRIX, something that hasn't been
>fixed in 6.5, is the behavior of login when you specify that root can
>only login into /dev/console (this can be set in /etc/default/login).
>Instead of immediately denying someone access when they try to telnet
>or rlogin as root to a box, it lets you still attempt the password, and
>only denies you access when you get the password correct.  So a hacker would
>know that they have the right root password, so all he has to do is hack
>a user account, probably not too difficult.  What login should do is once
>root gets entered at the login prompt, it should give an error and
disconnect,
>that why no potential hint to the root password would be given.
>
>
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