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Re: Netscape Referer header considered harmful?

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Amy)
Mon Aug 11 01:55:48 1997

Date: 	Fri, 8 Aug 1997 12:33:51 -0700
Reply-To: Amy <amy@INTERNET-FRONTIER.NET>
From: Amy <amy@INTERNET-FRONTIER.NET>
X-To:         Phillip M Hallam-Baker <hallam@AI.MIT.EDU>
To: BUGTRAQ@NETSPACE.ORG
In-Reply-To:  <199708071436.KAA25367@life.ai.mit.edu>

On Thu, 7 Aug 1997, Phillip M Hallam-Baker wrote:

>  Maybe, but lets hope that Netscape does not tsake this as
> indicating it isn't a bug, it is.
>

It sounds like it is not Netscape's fault, it sounds like people are using
their bookmark.htm as their homepage, as orignally suggested.

Amy :)

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Crewdson, Andy <crewdsoa@MAGIC.DCRT.NIH.GOV>
> To: BUGTRAQ@NETSPACE.ORG <BUGTRAQ@NETSPACE.ORG>
> Date: 07 August 1997 09:44
> Subject: Re: Netscape Referer header considered harmful?
>
>
>
> In response to your question about when the HTTP_REFERER with the
> "file:///" string is sent:
>
> In Netscape Communicator 4.01a (NT4), the value is present in
> HTTP_REFERER only when the user clicks on the link in their bookmark.htm
> file.  The "file:///" referer value is not passed when they choose a
> bookmark from the Bookmarks menu.  A link chosen from the Bookmarks menu
> sends an empty HTTP_REFERER value.
>
>
> andy
>
>         -----Original Message-----
>         From:   Ronald L. Parker [SMTP:ron@FARMWORKS.COM]
>         Sent:   Monday, August 04, 1997 11:10 AM
>         To:     BUGTRAQ@NETSPACE.ORG
>         Subject:        Netscape Referer header considered harmful?
>
>         -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
>
>         I found something I consider mildly disturbing while browsing my
>         referer log stats today.  Viewers to our site today have been
> referred
>         from the following URLs:
>
>
> file:///Hard%20Disk/System%20Folder/Preferences/Netscape%20%C4/Bookmar
>         s.html
>         file:C:\NETSCAPE\COMM\PROGRAM\USERS\DEFAULT\BOOKMARK.HTM
>         file:///molly's%20bookmarks/molly's%20bookmarks
>
>         As you can see, this is a cross-platform problem.  What I don't
> know
>         is whether these were sent by people just picking the bookmark
> from
>         the dropdown or by people using their bookmarks file as a home
> page.
>         Not having Communicator myself, and not planning to get it any
> time
>         soon, I can't test this.  In any case, file: URLs should be
> private.
>
>         The last one is particularly interesting, given that it can be
>         correlated with an IP address.  I don't know what you call your
>         bookmarks, but mine are called "Ron Parker's Bookmarks," based
> (I
>         think) on my identity as told to the mail/news subsystem.  So,
> had I
>         been cutting-edge enough to use Netscape 4.0, I would now be
> telling
>         my full name to every site in my bookmarks file.
>
>         Of course, this can also lead to my knowing into exactly which
>         directory you've installed Communicator.  This could be useful
>         information as well, and could help to mount an attack on your
>         private email or the list of newsgroups to which you subscribe.
>
>         In addition, again given that I have your IP address to work
> with, I
>         might now know something about the internal network structure of
> your
>         organization (not exemplified by any of the above sites, but
> think
>         about where you would store your bookmarks if you were using a
>         diskless workstation.  Would you be giving me a machine name or
> just a
>         drive letter?)  This information could be invaluable as part of
> an
>         attempt to bypass your firewall.
>
>         - --
>         Ron Parker
>         Webmaster
>         Farm Works Software       Come see us at
> http://www.farmworks.com
>         For PGP public key see
> http://www.farmworks.com/Ron_Parker_PGP_key.txt
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