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Re: On classifying attacks

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Crispin Cowan)
Tue Jul 19 16:35:51 2005

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Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2005 06:42:21 -0700
From: Crispin Cowan <crispin@novell.com>
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To: "Black, Michael" <black@EssexCorp.com>
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Black, Michael wrote:
>You might try re-using the rather large effort that went into the CERT
>taxonomy:
>http://www.cert.org/research/taxonomy_988667.pdf
>
>You'll note the complete lack of "local" and "remote" in the taxonomy.
>  
That pretty much tells me everything I need to know about whether I want
to use that taxonomy :)

>Remote exploit of Bind (causing "rm -r /*" to be executed):
>Attack:
>	Tool: User Command
>	Vulnerability: Design
>  
"Design"?!

>If you really want to stick with "remote" and "local" I think you can
>define them thusly:
>Remote -- control/access of resources occurs from outside the
>machine/network
>Local -- control/access of resources occurs on the local machine (i.e.
>no network connection required)
>  
Ok, but I had no trouble with those definitions in the first place, and
so far you have not captured the distinction Derek was asking about.

>Using this definition the email example is local and both bind examples
>are remote.
.. and any definition that classifies the e-mail example as "local" is
just broken.

Crispin
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Crispin Cowan, Ph.D.                      http://immunix.com/~crispin/
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