[36790] in bugtraq
Re: Diebold Global Election Management System (GEMS) Backdoor Account
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (David F. Skoll)
Thu Sep 30 17:03:33 2004
Date: Tue, 28 Sep 2004 15:50:12 -0400 (EDT)
From: "David F. Skoll" <dfs@roaringpenguin.com>
To: Marco S Hyman <marc@snafu.org>
Cc: "Greg A. Woods" <woods@weird.com>,
Jeremy Epstein <jeremy.epstein@webmethods.com>,
"BUGTRAQ: Full Disclosure Security Mailing List" <bugtraq@securityfocus.com>
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On Mon, 27 Sep 2004, Marco S Hyman wrote:
> > The answer is not to try to show that open source can be used in
> > captialistic ventures, but rather to be very clear in stating that free
> > enterprise (and capitalism) has no place whatsoever at any time in the
> > creation, formation, and instatement of a government for the people.
> Do expect to return to the age where voting is done with a pen and a
> blank slip of paper,
Yes, indeed. Works very well where I live (the paper isn't blank, though;
it's a pre-printed ballot.)
> both supplied by the voter?
That's not necessary. I trust the ballot and pen given to me by
Elections Canada.
> All I demand from a voting system is that votes can be voter verified.
I demand that it can be voter-verified by any "average" voter. That means
that anyone capable of voting must be capable of fully understanding and
verifying the voting system, which pretty much eliminates electronic
voting machines.
> That's not true of ANY voting machine regardless of who writes the code
> unless there is a hard copy audit trail. If there is a hard copy audit
> trail then it doesn't make any difference who wrote the code.
If you already have a hard copy audit trail, then why not *just* use the
hard-copy and dispense with electonic voting machines altogether?
--
David.
