[35496] in bugtraq

home help back first fref pref prev next nref lref last post

Re: Is predictable spam filtering a vulnerability? (silently

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (der Mouse)
Fri Jun 25 18:42:59 2004

From: der Mouse <mouse@Rodents.Montreal.QC.CA>
Message-Id: <200406251952.PAA04972@Sparkle.Rodents.Montreal.QC.CA>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
Date: Fri, 25 Jun 2004 15:49:27 -0400 (EDT)
To: bugtraq@securityfocus.com
In-Reply-To: <5.1.1.6.2.20040623143643.093de500@mail.professional.org>

>> A 5xx failure code is a lot more friendly than actually generating a
>> DSN.
> Well, you're causing the sending/relaying host to generate the DSN.

Only if the sending host is running a real MTA.  If it's ratware
talking to you, it won't do anything of the sort.  _That_ is the real
gain of an SMTP-layer rejection over accept-and-bounce: it doesn't
generate DSNs when talking to ratware.

> Quite possibly back to some sod who has been joe-jobbed.

But in that respect it's no worse than generating a DSN yourself.
Better sometimes and no worse the other times - sounds like a win.

/~\ The ASCII				der Mouse
\ / Ribbon Campaign
 X  Against HTML	       mouse@rodents.montreal.qc.ca
/ \ Email!	     7D C8 61 52 5D E7 2D 39  4E F1 31 3E E8 B3 27 4B

home help back first fref pref prev next nref lref last post