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Re: NT security et al (Dangers of NetBIOS/NBT?)

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Nick and Debbie Leask)
Thu Sep 26 20:28:40 1996

Date: 	Thu, 26 Sep 1996 19:44:07 +1000
Reply-To: Nick and Debbie Leask <nal@spirit.com.au>
From: Nick and Debbie Leask <nal@spirit.com.au>
To: Multiple recipients of list BUGTRAQ <BUGTRAQ@netspace.org>

I've read fairly similar sentiments about having NetBIOS or NBT floating =
around on our internet/firewall subnets, but I've not heard anyone =
discussing exactly what the dangers of this are.  There are obvious =
'pain's in the butt' when this is happening (such as lots of unnecessary =
deny messages logged against firewall bastion or router logs), but =
that's about all...  Can some one expand in detail what the known or =
perceived dangers of NetBIOS or NBT are?

What I have done so far (due to this fear of NetBIOS/NBT) is disable all =
NetBIOS/NBT portions of NT, unbind them from the NIC and delete the =
related .EXE's and .DLL's.  This solves the problem period.  The only =
downside is that you can't have servers in this state participating in a =
domain, but that just offers further possible dangers anyway...

Any insight into this would be much appreciated.

Cheers


Nick Leask

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From:  *Hobbit*[SMTP:hobbit@avian.org]
Sent:  Thursday, September 26, 1996 3:07 AM
To:  Multiple recipients of list BUGTRAQ
Subject:  NT security et al

I've been screwing around some with netbios in general, and being more =
or
less horrified [but not surprised, this is microsnot after all].  I've
learned that one hack you can do in the absence of any other overall
defenses is to use a non-null SCOPE ID.  They don't recommend it but =
that's
probably just because of the potential administrative headaches in =
manually
changing the scope on every machine in a facility.

The scope ID would be sort of a "global password" to your netbios =
service,
sort of the same way as YP domains, so it needs to be nonobvious and =
kept
within your walls.  Better than nothing, though...  Unfortunately the =
right
place to set it seems to be buried under obscure and ill-named menu =
items
that vary from platform, so you'll have to hunt around.

_H*

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