[3366] in bugtraq
Re: SecurID White Paper - A Comment
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Vin McLellan)
Tue Sep 17 00:08:23 1996
Date: Mon, 16 Sep 1996 14:27:14 -0400
Reply-To: Vin McLellan <vin@shore.net>
From: Vin McLellan <vin@shore.net>
X-To: mudge@l0pht.com
To: Multiple recipients of list BUGTRAQ <BUGTRAQ@NETSPACE.ORG>
mudge, quite disrespectfully, wrote:
>1 - Who the hell is LHT Industries?
> Brian Oblivion, Weld Pond, Tan, King Kingpin, Space Rogue,
> Stefan (whom you didn't mention), and I are the 7 members of l0pht. I
> do know the names of the other people you mention as they all have
> accounts on the l0pht machine - that's about it.
Mea culpa. Fast fingers; late night; tired mind. I meant to write
"LHI Technologies." I read the reference to "LHI Technologies" -- in the
copyright notice at the bottom of each page of the <http://L0pht.com>
website -- as an alternative designation for "L0pht Heavy Industries." The
names I listed are described as the "inhabitants" of L0pht Heavy
Industries:
"Part workshop, part playhouse. Rave center for the socially disinclined.
Last vestige of the smart sleepless. A place for extra storage. The L0pht,
man. It's got it all. "
>2 - We were not thanked or mentioned in the white paper you refer to.
> The only one that you list that I saw thanked in the paper was
> Hobbit. [yes we are a bit chagrined as it's obvious that some of
> our ideas were in the paper]
In the Postscript text I picked up, PeiterZ's first credit is a
statement of gratitude to "LHI Technologies," who were said to have been
"invaluable in their analysis of the hardware token cards." My apologies
all around if that was not a reference to mudge and his collegues at the
L0pht -- but it sure sounded like PeiterZ of SNI was giving credit where I
knew credit was due. (That's why I didn't understand Peiter's outrage when
I credited the key ideas in his White Paper to various "elite hackers."
I'd already heard them from mudge and others.)
> 3 - We, the l0pht, have no affiliation with SNI (those are the people
> who put out the paper). Asa matter of fact we have no affiliation
> whith any company that has money. Sad but true - we foot everything
> out of our own pockets and little doo-dads that we manage to sell
> to defray our costs. Simply because we love hacking (in the old sense
> :-)
A little bewildered,
_Vin
Vin McLellan +The Privacy Guild+ <vin@shore.net>
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