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Re: libresolv+ bug

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Julian Assange)
Wed Aug 21 13:52:07 1996

Date: 	Wed, 21 Aug 1996 20:27:30 +1000
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From: Julian Assange <proff@suburbia.net>
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In-Reply-To:  <199608210055.TAA18125@enteract.com> from "Thomas Ptacek" at Aug
              20, 96 07:55:29 pm

> But, as we all know, that's not a particularly effective solution to the
> problem. The real problems, as I'm sure you'll agree, der Mouse, are that
> SUID programs aren't being written carefully enough, library routines that
> are potentially depended on by SUID programs aren't written with those
> security issues in mind, and, in general, most Unix OS's give
> "priveledged" programs that need to do one or two specific things far, far
> too much power.

From what I have seen, stack exploits are considerably harder on Alpha
architecture as the mmu does not grant the stack exec permissions, and the
data space grows upwards, meaning that any over-written return address
must contain a NULL if you the trojan code there. Calling code in the
text segment, is still possible, if almost always futile.

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