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Re: Vulnerability in credit union's E-statement feature

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Hugo van der Kooij)
Sun Sep 2 14:56:52 2001

Date: Sat, 1 Sep 2001 20:34:23 +0200 (CEST)
From: Hugo van der Kooij <hvdkooij@vanderkooij.org>
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On Fri, 31 Aug 2001, BlueJAMC wrote:

> Obviously, the problem here is clear;  the account number is clear text.
> Of course, the link requires you to include a password.  However,
> considering the fact that most users the same password for
> everything--e-mail, e-statements, chatroom SNs, etc--the requirement to
> use a password is little consolation.  This, coupled with the fact that
> the individual branches for the credit union do not check for any type
> of identification other than a signature when making a withdrawl, makes
> this even more dangerous.

Any bank using plain username/password authentication should be avoided
at all costs! Such a design is painfully insecure. Any steady
username/password combination can be obtained and replayed over time.
It usually only takes a glance on the keyboard of someone typing his/her
password to get a good hunch. (recognize any name, carbrand, ....?)

I'm not aware of other country's specifications but in the Netherlands all
banks use some sort of one-time passwords. Most of them use the tokens
made by Vasco.

The security requires 3 items:
 - challenge generated by the server
 - physical access to the OTP generator. (stack 5 credit cards and you got
a picture of the size ;-)
 - pincode of the OTP
These generate a response that is unique and is send back to the server.

Hugo.

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