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Re: Eudora MUA: Risky practice

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Will Bryant)
Mon Aug 27 16:27:13 2001

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Date: Tue, 28 Aug 2001 04:27:39 +1200
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From: Will Bryant <will@core-dev.co.nz>
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>         A user deleting the attachments from the disk (for example, 
> hundreds of
>copies of Sircam) can execute one of them by accident. This deletion is
>usually done from the Windows file manager, which will never ask for
>confirmation before executing a file. [snip]

Note that recent versions of Eudora have a feature to prevent exactly this 
problem - when opening certain types of files in your attachments directory 
from Explorer (yes, outside Eudora itself), you will be given a yes/no 
confirmation prompt with this warning:

'The file "<file name>" may contain programs or macros.  Opening it might 
transmit your data over the Internet, or alter, damage, or remove files and 
applications on your computer.  Unless you not only trusted the sender, but 
also expected this file, you may not wish to open it.  Do you wish to open it?'

Not as perfect solution, but definitely a good idea anyway.

It only happens for certain file types - 
HKCR\Software\Qualcomm\Eudora\LaunchManager lists the paths (both the 
attachments and embedded folders) and file extensions (ade, adp, bas, bat, 
chm, cmd, com, cpl, crt, do, exe, hlp, ht, inf, ins, isp, js, lnk, md, ms, 
pcd, pif, pl, pot, pp, pwz, reg, scr, sct, shb, shs, url, vb, ws, xl) it 
will prompt for.  (Incidentally, it doesn't prompt for .url files for me 
even though they're on the list.  Haven't tested all the others.)

I don't know how it's implemented - some sort of shell extension, I assume 
it just hooks all opens from Explorer and checks them against the 
lists.  Perhaps someone at Qualcomm can fill us in?


Personally I would however still prefer it to not extract attachments out 
to the directory automatically - it is more manageable than say Outlook 
Express where people tend to end up with 90mb mail folders, but it does 
cause a lot of mess and worry for those of us who use Eudora to read 
buqtraq :) (and it's a pain when you get a lot of mail with 
attachments.)  IMHO it would be much nicer if it say didn't seperate the 
attachments by default, but let you do it manually.

Fixing the problem noted on bugtraq a while back where people can 'fake' 
attachments by putting in the 'Attachment Converted:' text in the body of 
an email would be good, too.

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