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Re: Nortel CES (3DES version) offers false sense of securitywhen

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (MCKILLICAN, DONALD)
Wed Feb 28 01:21:10 2001

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Message-ID:  <3A9C1CAB.CA59385F@bell.ca>
Date:         Tue, 27 Feb 2001 16:31:24 -0500
Reply-To: "MCKILLICAN, DONALD" <donald.mckillican@BELL.CA>
From: "MCKILLICAN, DONALD" <donald.mckillican@BELL.CA>
X-To:         Rogier Wolff <R.E.Wolff@BITWIZARD.NL>
To: BUGTRAQ@SECURITYFOCUS.COM

Rogier Wolff wrote:

> I don't know where people get their information, but tripple-DES uses a 112
> bit key. How they can advertize 128, or even 168 bits of keys I don't know.

In fact, there are a number of different modes for TripleDES.  Some of them
use one key, some of them use two, and some use three.  A commonly used
example of the last named is DES-EDE3.

See, for instance,
<http://www.crypto.nkfurst.edu.tw/infosec/faq/html/3-2-6.html> for more
precise explanations.

Regards,
Donald McKillican
Bell Canada Corporate Security

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