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Re: explanation and code for stream.c issues

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Giorgos Keramidas)
Sun Jan 23 17:11:52 2000

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Date:         Sat, 22 Jan 2000 05:06:56 +0200
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From: Giorgos Keramidas <charon@HADES.HELL.GR>
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On Fri, Jan 21, 2000 at 01:15:27PM -0600, Tim Yardley wrote:
>
> As was mentioned in the "advisory/explanation" on the issue, ipfw cannot
> deal with the problem due to the fact that it is stateless.
>
> The attack comes from random ip addresses, therefore throttling like that
> only hurts your connection or solves nothing at all.  In other words, the
> random sourcing and method of the attack, makes a non-stateless firewall
> useless.

Substitute 'stateless' for 'non-stateless' above.  A stateless firewall, like
IPFW is the type of firewall that is useless.

-- Giorgos

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