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Re: The "Mac DoS Attack," a Scheme for Blocking Internet

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (der Mouse)
Fri Dec 31 03:53:50 1999

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> [...new(?) smurf-style DoS attack...]

> Prevention
> [...]
> The Internet Service Providers (ISPs) must take action to drop long
> ICMP packets in the backbone networks (any packet longer than 1499
> bytes, at least).

This strikes me as a very bad idea.  It's rather like saying, NFS can
be used to attack insecure machines, so let's block NFS packets on
long-haul links: yes, it's true that such attacks are possible, but the
facility is useful and the *correct* thing to do is to secure the
insecure machines, not break the (useful) underlying facility for
everyone else.  (Rather like the SSRR and LSRR IP options, though I
realize *that* fight was in practice lost long ago.)

					der Mouse

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