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Re: Apple Petition
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Osborne, Bruce W)
Mon Aug 6 06:05:04 2012
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Date: Mon, 6 Aug 2012 09:58:18 +0000
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From: "Osborne, Bruce W" <bosborne@LIBERTY.EDU>
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Apple needs to realize that a large portion of that early consumer market is attending a college or university with an enterprise network.
Bruce Osborne
Network Engineer
IT Network Services
(434) 592-4229
LIBERTY UNIVERSITY
Training Champions for Christ since 1971
-----Original Message-----
From: Koerber, Jeff [mailto:jkoerber@towson.edu]
Sent: Friday, August 03, 2012 6:54 PM
Subject: Re: Apple Petition
They also have to remember that once people graduate and get into the business world, PCs are used more often because Apple isn't enterprise friendly at all. I guess they are successfully targeting the consumer market, but if they did a few things here and there, they would get even more business customers.
Jeff Koerber
Towson University
Student Computing Services
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On Aug 3, 2012, at 11:23 AM, "Mike Malsed" <mike.malsed@CLAREMONTMCKENNA.EDU> wrote:
> I had to chuckle, Bruce. I don't think there are many AT Apple who
> remember the Apple ][ days - that thing was amazingly open and
> expandable. Heck, that's one of the platforms I learned to program
> assy code (who does THAT anymore? LOL) built a wire-wrap expansion board (who does THAT anymore?
> LOL)
>
> Nah, I honestly believe that those responsible for the Apple ]['s are
> either retired (it WAS 30+ years ago), moved away (Woz, etc.), have no
> influence anymore, or have bought into the "new" philosophy.
>
> I agree with you, though. Get people "infected" early and they're yours forever.
> . . although I'm one who got disinfected. . . but then I was
> cross-infected. I worked on CP/M, Apple, and a couple of others. I
> didn't touch an Intel based machine until the 90s. . .
>
> On Thu, 2 Aug 2012 12:03:05 +0000, Osborne, Bruce W
> <bosborne@liberty.edu> wrote:
>
>> Mike,
>>
>> The older people at Apple realize that much of their success as a
>> company
> came from their educational strategy in the Apple ][ days.
>>
>> If you get people ex[posed to your product early and in a positive
>> manner,
> you have a customer for life.
>>
>> Bruce Osborne
>> Network Engineer
>> IT Network Services
>>
>> (434) 592-4229
>>
>> LIBERTY UNIVERSITY
>> Training Champions for Christ since 1971
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Mike Malsed [mailto:mike.malsed@CLAREMONTMCKENNA.EDU]
>> Sent: Wednesday, August 01, 2012 1:38 PM
>> Subject: Re: Apple Petition
>>
>> I did sign it, but I don't have any optimism regarding any type of success.
>>
>> Look at Apple's history. They have consistently made products without
>> any
> consideration of management OR removed products or features that made
> any kind of management easier.
>>
>> Their philosophy is pretty much anti-management.
>>
>> I signed, but I'm a pessimist when it comes to Apple doing anything
>> for us,
> managers.
>>
>> When it comes to making amazing products for consumers? Oh yeah.
>>
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