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Re: Handling of passwords for personal equipment brought in for service

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Larry James)
Tue May 1 07:45:52 2012

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Date:         Mon, 30 Apr 2012 18:30:24 +0000
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From: Larry James <larry.james@UNL.EDU>
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We also get the local password for any computers left with us for virus cle=
an-up. A shocking percentage of the students have no password set, they get=
 "the speech" about needing one, but we don't force them. It's sometimes aw=
kward for me when someone has a really bad password, (like their name), bec=
ause at least they have one.

Larry James
ResNet Manager 402-472-3535
RM 123.1 501 Bldg (0203)
402-472-5227 ljames2@unl.edu

From: Resnet Forum [mailto:RESNET-L@LISTSERV.ND.EDU] On Behalf Of Cesar A N=
au
Sent: Monday, April 30, 2012 11:02 AM
To: RESNET-L@LISTSERV.ND.EDU
Subject: Handling of passwords for personal equipment brought in for servic=
e

Good afternoon all,

I wanted to get some opinions as to how your respective service centers go =
about handling passwords for personal equipment that are brought in for ser=
vice.

The typical scenario here is that when a customer has a problem with their =
computer, they bring it to one of our IT Customer Care Centers and if the c=
omputer is required to stay for an extended period of time ... we ask the c=
ustomer for their password in order to access / install / un-install apps o=
n their computer as necessary.

When the computer is repaired and returned, we advise the student to please=
 reset their password to something that only they would know.

Our IT Security group does not agree with this method, as they would like f=
or the customer to never give anyone their password.

I completely understand from a security standpoint ... but for repair purpo=
ses, and taking into consideration the time it will take to repair, having =
to ask the customer to come back in order to enter their password each time=
, and overall customer satisfaction ... I just don't think its possible.

Therefore I would like to know how you guys handle it at your schools.

  *   Do you guys require that they provide you with their password for rep=
air?
  *   Do you guys require that the customer return and enter User name and =
Password each time?
  *   Do you guys require that the customer change their password when leav=
ing their computer?

Any feedback would be appreciated.

Thanks.

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Cesar A. Nau
Assistant Director
IT Customer Care
Fordham University
(718) 817-4598
nau@fordham.edu<mailto:nau@fordham.edu>
www.fordham.edu/HelpIT
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Ca=
libri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F497D">We also get the local pas=
sword for any computers left with us for virus clean-up. A shocking percent=
age of the students have no password set, they get &#8220;the
 speech&#8221; about needing one, but we don&#8217;t force them. It&#8217;s=
 sometimes awkward for me when someone has a really bad password, (like the=
ir name), because at least they have one.
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Ca=
libri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F497D"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span><=
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Ca=
libri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F497D">Larry James<br>
ResNet Manager 402-472-3535<br>
RM 123.1 501 Bldg (0203)<br>
402-472-5227 ljames2@unl.edu<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Ca=
libri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F497D"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span><=
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot=
;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">From:</span></b><span style=3D"font-s=
ize:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"> Resnet F=
orum [mailto:RESNET-L@LISTSERV.ND.EDU]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Cesar A Nau<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Monday, April 30, 2012 11:02 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> RESNET-L@LISTSERV.ND.EDU<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Handling of passwords for personal equipment brought in for=
 service<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Ar=
ial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">Good afternoon all,</span>
<br>
<br>
<span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-se=
rif&quot;">I wanted to get some opinions as to how your respective service =
centers go about handling passwords for personal equipment that are brought=
 in for service.
</span><br>
<br>
<span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-se=
rif&quot;">The typical scenario here is that when a customer has a problem =
with their computer, they bring it to one of our IT Customer Care Centers a=
nd if the computer is required to stay for an extended
 period of time ... we ask the customer for their password in order to acce=
ss / install / un-install apps on their computer as necessary.</span>
<br>
<br>
<span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-se=
rif&quot;">When the computer is repaired and returned, we advise the studen=
t to please reset their password to something that only they would know.</s=
pan>
<br>
<br>
<span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-se=
rif&quot;">Our IT Security group does not agree with this method, as they w=
ould like for the customer to never give anyone their password.</span>
<br>
<br>
<span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-se=
rif&quot;">I completely understand from a security standpoint ... but for r=
epair purposes, and taking into consideration the time it will take to repa=
ir, having to ask the customer to come back in order to
 enter their password each time, and overall customer satisfaction ... I ju=
st don't think its possible.</span>
<br>
<br>
<span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-se=
rif&quot;">Therefore I would like to know how you guys handle it at your sc=
hools.</span>
<o:p></o:p></p>
<ul type=3D"disc">
<li class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-=
alt:auto;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1">
<span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-se=
rif&quot;">Do you guys require that they provide you with their password fo=
r repair?</span>
<o:p></o:p></li><li class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"mso-margin-top-alt:auto;ms=
o-margin-bottom-alt:auto;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1">
<span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-se=
rif&quot;">Do you guys require that the customer return and enter User name=
 and Password each time?</span>
<o:p></o:p></li><li class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"mso-margin-top-alt:auto;ms=
o-margin-bottom-alt:auto;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1">
<span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-se=
rif&quot;">Do you guys require that the customer change their password when=
 leaving their computer?</span><o:p></o:p></li></ul>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><br>
<span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-se=
rif&quot;">Any feedback would be appreciated.</span>
<br>
<br>
<span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-se=
rif&quot;">Thanks.</span> <br>
<br>
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Cesar A. Nau<br>
Assistant Director<br>
IT Customer Care<br>
Fordham University<br>
(718) 817-4598<br>
<a href=3D"mailto:nau@fordham.edu">nau@fordham.edu</a><br>
</span><a href=3D"www.fordham.edu/HelpIT"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;f=
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