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Re: ResNet Bandwidth Standards and Shaping too.

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Chris Davis)
Thu Mar 15 05:57:27 2012

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I understand your hesitance Cal.  One of the reasons I am thinking about it is that I'm about to jump on the NGFW bandwagon this summer as well.  I'm looking at a number of NGFWs and I'm pretty sure we'll come out using one or something very similar.  I mentioned using that to control P2P and converting to the bandwidth enforcing device to my boss.  He was interested in it, as am I.  So, the PacketLogic device is a DPI device?  I am not really aware of the different offerings in the group, other than by name.   I have heard of the Packetlogic, the NetEqualizer, and Exinda.  I'm sure there may be others.

Chris

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Subject: Re: ResNet Bandwidth Standards and Shaping too.

Hi, Chris,
On 3/14/12 12:40 PM, Chris Davis wrote:
> ratio of students to Mbps in bandwidth that was about 4:1.

Agreed. We're at about 6:1, and can almost get away without bandwidth managing of any sort. But as you note, we do use our Packetlogic to block P2P applications except for those registering to opt-in. The Packetlogic is pretty good at permitting game updates while blocking general P2P downloads, too.
> 
> But I'm beginning to wonder (like someone else who answered this
> topic) if the deep inspection identification is the way to share 
> traffic. Would it be better to jump to some other technology that 
> spends it's time dicing the bandwidth fairly and equally between the 
> people using the bandwidth?

We did consider switching to a share-and-share-alike device over DPI, but kicked the can down the road a couple years before making a big change. If you're really crimped on bandwidth, DPI makes more sense. The main reason for our delay was the lack of a suitable box to identify P2P separately from the bandwidth manager. We're watching the developments in next-gen firewalls carefully, but likely won't have to commit until several years from now when they get even better ;-)

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-- Cal Frye, Network Administrator, Oberlin College
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