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Re: Question for Google Apps for Edu email users
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Shannon Peevey)
Thu Nov 10 09:36:04 2011
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Date: Thu, 10 Nov 2011 08:33:36 -0600
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From: Shannon Peevey <speeves@stolaf.edu>
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On Thu, Nov 10, 2011 at 7:41 AM, Brian Gibson <
gibson_brian@wheatoncollege.edu> wrote:
> Hi everyone,
>
> We are researching email/calendaring alternatives and I'm trying to get a
> straight answer about whether the free offering from Google is usable as
> far as email goes. There is a "Google Message Security" piece that you
> can add (pay service) and it states the following 2 features...
>
> "Stops spam, viruses, phishing, denial of service, directory harvest
> attacks, and other attacks before they reach your network without message
> loss or disruptions to email service"
>
> "Protect sensitive messages such as financial data and personal content by
> using industry-standard SSL or TLS protocols"
>
> Does that mean there is *no* anti-spam/virus/phishing protection at all
> if we opt out of it or is there some base level that we get with the free
> version? Does the 2nd item mean without it people cannot do IMAP (inbound)
> and SMTP (outbound) over SSL/TLS from their email clients and if they use
> AirSync from their smartphones/tablets it is not using SSL/TLS?
>
>
Hi Brian,
St. Olaf College moved all students, faculty, and staff to Google Apps for
Education (2009). It has been one of the most positive technology
migrations that I have experienced.
1. Google Apps for Edu uses the standard built-in Gmail spam/etc.
filtering, and also allows the email user to mark messages that they feel
are SPAM. I rarely see SPAM, unless there is a new trending message that
google filtering hasn't properly identified yet.
2. IMAPS/POP3S are available for all clients. SSL/TLS is required for
outgoing SMTP.
Here is a link to our FAQ, which may be out-of-date, but shows many of the
questions/problems that we ran up against during implementation:
http://www.stolaf.edu/services/iit/gae/faq/
Here is a link to our desktop migration scripts, (written in BASH, but we
used them for Windows/OS X, and GNU/Linux):
http://www.stolaf.edu/services/iit/gae/migration/
and my discussion of the scripts:
http://speeves.erikin.com/2010/10/google-apps-email-migration-api.html
Also, I was posting a lot of notes on my blog concerning changes and quirks
that we were running into during migration:
http://speeves.erikin.com/search?q=gmail
Let me know if you have additional questions.
Thanks,
--
Shannon Eric Peevey
Systems Programmer
Information and Instructional Technologies
St. Olaf College
1510 St. Olaf Avenue
Northfield, MN 55057-1097 USA
+1 507 786-3731, +1 507 786-3096 (fax)
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<br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Thu, Nov 10, 2011 at 7:41 AM, Brian G=
ibson <span dir=3D"ltr"><<a href=3D"mailto:gibson_brian@wheatoncollege.e=
du">gibson_brian@wheatoncollege.edu</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote cl=
ass=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;p=
adding-left:1ex;">
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<div bgcolor=3D"#FFFFFF" text=3D"#000000">
<span style=3D"line-height:normal"><font><font color=3D"#000000" face=
=3D"verdana, sans-serif"><span style=3D"font-size:10pt;text-decoration:none=
;vertical-align:baseline">Hi
everyone,<br>
<br>
We are researching email/calendaring alternatives and I'm
trying to get a straight answer about whether the free
offering from Google is usable as far as email goes. There
is a </span></font></font></span><span style=3D"line-height:nor=
mal"><font><font color=3D"#000000" face=3D"verdana, sans-serif"><span style=
=3D"font-size:10pt;text-decoration:none;vertical-align:baseline">"Goog=
le Message Security" piece
that you can add (pay service) and it states the following 2
features...<br>
<br>
</span></font></font></span><span style=3D"line-height:normal"><f=
ont><font color=3D"#000000" face=3D"verdana, sans-serif"><span style=3D"fon=
t-size:10pt;text-decoration:none;vertical-align:baseline">"</span></fo=
nt></font></span>Stops
spam, viruses, phishing, denial of service, directory harvest
attacks, and other attacks before they reach your network without
message loss or disruptions to email service"<br>
<br>
"Protect sensitive messages such as financial data and personal
content by using industry-standard SSL or TLS protocols"<br>
<br>
Does that mean there is <b>no</b> anti-spam/virus/phishing
protection at all if we opt out of it or is there some base level
that we get with the free version? Does the 2nd item mean without it
people cannot do IMAP (inbound) and SMTP (outbound) over SSL/TLS
from their email clients and if they use AirSync from their
smartphones/tablets it is not using SSL/TLS?<br><br></div></blockquote>=
<div><br></div><div>Hi Brian,</div><div><br></div><div>St. Olaf College mov=
ed all students, faculty, and staff to Google Apps for Education (2009). It=
has been one of the most positive technology migrations that I have experi=
enced.=A0</div>
<div><br></div><div>1. Google Apps for Edu uses the standard built-in Gmail=
spam/etc. filtering, and also allows the email user to mark messages that =
they feel are SPAM. I rarely see SPAM, unless there is a new trending messa=
ge that google filtering hasn't properly identified yet.</div>
<div>2. IMAPS/POP3S are available for all clients. SSL/TLS is required for =
outgoing SMTP.</div><div><br></div><div>Here is a link to our FAQ, which ma=
y be out-of-date, but shows many of the questions/problems that we ran up a=
gainst during implementation:</div>
<div><a href=3D"http://www.stolaf.edu/services/iit/gae/faq/">http://www.sto=
laf.edu/services/iit/gae/faq/</a></div><div><br></div><div>Here is a link t=
o our desktop migration scripts, (written in BASH, but we used them for Win=
dows/OS X, and GNU/Linux):</div>
<div><a href=3D"http://www.stolaf.edu/services/iit/gae/migration/">http://w=
ww.stolaf.edu/services/iit/gae/migration/</a></div><div>and my discussion o=
f the scripts:</div><div><a href=3D"http://speeves.erikin.com/2010/10/googl=
e-apps-email-migration-api.html">http://speeves.erikin.com/2010/10/google-a=
pps-email-migration-api.html</a></div>
<div><br></div><div>Also, I was posting a lot of notes on my blog concernin=
g changes and quirks that we were running into during migration:</div><div>=
<a href=3D"http://speeves.erikin.com/search?q=3Dgmail">http://speeves.eriki=
n.com/search?q=3Dgmail</a></div>
<div><br></div><div>Let me know if you have additional questions.</div><div=
><br></div><div>Thanks,</div><div><br></div></div>-- <br>Shannon Eric Peeve=
y<br>Systems Programmer<br>Information and Instructional Technologies<br>
St. Olaf College<br>1510 St. Olaf Avenue<br>Northfield, MN =A055057-1097 US=
A<br>+1 507 786-3731, =A0+1 507 786-3096 (fax)<br>
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