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Re: Question for Google Apps for Edu email users
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Frownfelter, Lorraine)
Thu Nov 10 09:05:33 2011
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Date: Thu, 10 Nov 2011 09:03:10 -0500
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From: "Frownfelter, Lorraine" <lfrownfelter2@MERCYHURST.EDU>
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We moved students to Live@edu last year, our employee email is still in-house.. The students are pleased with the service and it does include anti-spam & virus(forefront). They can use imap or pop3 as well as exchange and active sync connections to their accounts. My understanding is most phones do not support the ssl/tls security for IMAP or SMTP- Live uses alternate ports for smtp, pop and imap. If they use active sync it has TLS security. Support is about the same they still have expired passwords( we sync with our network accounts)and each new phone sets up differently.
The real benefit has been the additional features such as storage and office apps available to them in the cloud. We went with live because we already had exchange and the interface had no learning curve for our users, It was also easy to integrate with our Sharepoint portal and windows domain.
Lorraine frownfelter
System Administrator
Mercyhurst College
501 East 38th Street
Erie, PA 16546
(814)824-3360
"Computers have enabled people to make more mistakes faster than almost any invention in history, with the possible exception of tequila and hand guns." - Mitch Ratcliffe
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From: Resnet Forum [mailto:RESNET-L@LISTSERV.ND.EDU] On Behalf Of Nathan Hay
Sent: Thursday, November 10, 2011 8:47 AM
To: RESNET-L@LISTSERV.ND.EDU
Subject: Re: Question for Google Apps for Edu email users
I would also be interested in the answers to these questions. We are also considering switch email from internal servers to one of these services.
Nathan
Nathan P. Hay
Network Engineer | Information Technology Cedarville University | www.cedarville.edu
937-766-7905
twitter: @nathanphay
>>> Brian Gibson <gibson_brian@wheatoncollege.edu> 11/10/2011 8:41 AM >>>
Hi everyone,
We are researching email/calendaring alternatives and I'm trying to get
a straight answer about whether the free offering from Google is usable
as far as email goes. There is a "Google Message Security" piece that
you can add (pay service) and it states the following 2 features...
"Stops spam, viruses, phishing, denial of service, directory harvest
attacks, and other attacks before they reach your network without
message loss or disruptions to email service"
"Protect sensitive messages such as financial data and personal content
by using industry-standard SSL or TLS protocols"
Does that mean there is *no* anti-spam/virus/phishing protection at all
if we opt out of it or is there some base level that we get with the
free version? Does the 2nd item mean without it people cannot do IMAP
(inbound) and SMTP (outbound) over SSL/TLS from their email clients and
if they use AirSync from their smartphones/tablets it is not using SSL/TLS?
I'd love to hear back from some email admins about these answers, and
equally as important, has switching over to Google (or Microsoft Live)
made your life harder or easier?
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Brian Gibson
Systems Administrator
Wheaton College
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