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Re: Do we still need Network Access Control?

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Randall C Grimshaw)
Fri Nov 4 16:47:50 2011

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Fry Day Indeed.

I think we need to discuss Access Control and Compliance Checking separatel=
y.

With Access Control you have the ability to identify and quarantine machine=
s on your network. Where this is accomplished is a difficult architectural =
question, but it needs to be a tool in your quiver - not just for malware, =
but also abuse / illegal activity.

Compliance checking is becoming less of an issue in my opinion... in part b=
ecause the 'bad guys' are financially motivated to keep the network up. And=
 in part because users are migrating to mobile computing appliances. When I=
DS systems identify a compromised system, you are back to the Access Contro=
l issue.

Randall Grimshaw rgrimsha@syr.edu<mailto:rgrimsha@syr.edu>

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Subject: Do we still need Network Access Control?

Hi folks,

In the wake of 2003 with Blaster and other worms spreading through unpatche=
d systems like wildfire...

Has anyone ditched their NAC solution and tested these waters?
If you don=92t have NAC in your residence halls, what=92s it like? Is malwa=
re a big problem?

Thanks and happy Friday,
-Ryan

Ryan Richter
IT Support Services
California State University, Chico
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10pt;">Fry Day Indeed.<br>
<br>
I think we need to discuss Access Control and Compliance Checking separatel=
y.<br>
<br>
With Access Control you have the ability to identify and quarantine machine=
s on your network. Where this is accomplished is a difficult architectural =
question, but it needs to be a tool in your quiver - not just for malware, =
but also abuse / illegal activity.<br>
<br>
Compliance checking is becoming less of an issue in my opinion... in part b=
ecause the 'bad guys' are financially motivated to keep the network up. And=
 in part because users are migrating to mobile computing appliances. When I=
DS systems identify a compromised
 system, you are back to the Access Control issue.<br>
<div><br>
<div><font face=3D"Tahoma" size=3D"2">Randall Grimshaw <a href=3D"mailto:rg=
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rgrimsha@syr.edu</a></font></div>
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<b>Sent:</b> Friday, November 04, 2011 1:24 PM<br>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Hi folks,</p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">&nbsp;</p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">In the wake of 2003 with Blaster and other worms spr=
eading through unpatched systems like wildfire...</p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">&nbsp;</p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Has anyone ditched their NAC solution and tested the=
se waters?</p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">If you don=92t have NAC in your residence halls, wha=
t=92s it like? Is malware a big problem?</p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">&nbsp;</p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Thanks and happy Friday,</p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">-Ryan</p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">&nbsp;</p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color: gray;">Ryan Richter</span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color: gray;">IT Support Services</sp=
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color: gray;">California State Univer=
sity, Chico</span></p>
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