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Re: Pay for printing in labs

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Johnathan W. Kerns)
Wed Oct 26 15:24:44 2011

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Date:         Wed, 26 Oct 2011 15:22:49 -0400
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From: "Johnathan W. Kerns" <johnathan.kerns@uncp.edu>
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Currently at UNCP we don't charge for printing. However, the student's must use their own paper. We haven't had any complaints.

Thanks for all the comment guys and gals :-) This listserv is very valuable. 

-----Original Message-----
From: Resnet Forum [mailto:RESNET-L@LISTSERV.ND.EDU] On Behalf Of Brian Gibson
Sent: Wednesday, October 26, 2011 3:11 PM
To: RESNET-L@LISTSERV.ND.EDU
Subject: Re: Pay for printing in labs

I agree 100%, we use Equitrac now and we do not charge the students. 
Recently I was informed that next Fall we will need to start charging students for print/copy jobs. No one seems to listen when you say that it will tick off the students, cause more work (accounting) on our already limited staff, and you won't tap into missing revenue since students will print less and bring their own personal printers (which will cost us more in electricity)

Ok... time for me to get off of my soapbox :-)



-------- Original Message --------
Subject: Re: Pay for printing in labs
From: Brien G. Muller <bmuller@skidmore.edu>
To: RESNET-L@LISTSERV.ND.EDU
Date: 10/26/2011 2:24 PM
> Richard,
>
> This is never a popular question when I ask it, but I must on behalf of your students. Don't they already pay for printing? Don't their fees pay for printers, paper, toner, and the staff to maintain them?
>
> Once you add a new, additional fee for printing, will you give the students a rebate on their former fees?
>
> Would it be more appropriate to state that you want to either "increase their costs for printing by adding an additional fee" or that you want to "find a way to reduce wasted resources, for example by requiring the release of print jobs"?
>
> A lot of this is beyond the students' control. At least at our school the library has reduced the purchase of books by scanning and posting PDFs which the students then must print. The budget has simply transferred from library (book purchases) to IT (printer and supply purchases). Similarly, the library reduced the number of paper journals and subscribed to online databases of journals which the students then print.  And now we're moving into an age of ebooks where students will download books and guess what -- print them on public printers. This is another budget transfer from the students' wallets (paper book purchases) to IT (printer and supply purchases). These transfers should not be made in a void where budget reallocations are ignored.
>
> I think the entire discussion of printing costs needs to be reframed.
>
> Brien Muller
> IT Help Desk Manager
> Skidmore College
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Resnet Forum [mailto:RESNET-L@LISTSERV.ND.EDU] On Behalf Of 
> Richard Gaughran
> Sent: Wednesday, October 26, 2011 11:20 AM
> To: RESNET-L@LISTSERV.ND.EDU
> Subject: Pay for printing in labs
>
> Hi All,
> We are considering charging students for printing in out lab and are exploring several different methods.  One would be using the students id card and a swipe card reader mounted to the printer.  Another would be use third-party software and Active Directory to charge back to the students account.
> Does anyone have a system in place that they can recommend.
> Thanks
> Richard Gaughran
>
> Director of Technology Services
>
> Stetson University, Deland FL. 32723
>
> Work 386.822.7060
>
> Cell 386.747.3298
>
> rgaughra@stetson.edu
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