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Re: Second Life
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Johnathan W. Kerns)
Sat Oct 22 10:57:11 2011
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Kathy,
Thank you very much for this info. It is very informative. :-)
From: Resnet Forum [mailto:RESNET-L@LISTSERV.ND.EDU] On Behalf Of Casey, Ka=
thy
Sent: Thursday, October 20, 2011 2:38 PM
To: RESNET-L@LISTSERV.ND.EDU
Subject: Re: Second Life
As a personal user of Second Life (SL), I'm familiar with a lot of the quir=
ks of the various viewers. SL is in the midst of a huge OS upgrade that is=
playing havoc with the entire grid, running rolling restarts throughout th=
e grid for days on end. This is not the normal condition of the grid, it i=
s an extraordinary circumstance that will be resolved once they complete th=
e work, which should be very soon. It is inconvenient and messy if the res=
tarts occur during a class, but they usually only take a few minutes. Norm=
ally they do rolling restarts on Wednesdays at 5am and complete them by abo=
ut 10am Second Life Time (SLT) which equals Pacific Time since SL is based =
in San Francisco.
SL recently released Viewer 3 which (according to the users) is a crashy li=
ttle bugger and Viewer 2, Firestorm or Phoenix 1.5.2.1185 is recommended in=
stead until it is revised. All these changes are to support a new technolo=
gy called "mesh" which is quite revolutionary and will change the "face" of=
SL quite a bit, but it is not in common use as yet and the older viewers w=
ill work just fine for now. Items that are mesh will appear as a multicol=
ored basic shape (known as a prim or primitive). Phoenix is used by over 6=
0% of SL users because of its ease of use, stability and low crash rate.
Since SL is a virtual world, the quality of the video card and driver is ke=
y to the SL experience. A high quality video card and the latest drivers w=
ill fix many SL issues, as will a fast internet connection.
Grid status and restart schedules:
http://status.secondlifegrid.net/
Viewers ranked by crash rate:
http://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/Third_Party_Viewer_Directory
Enjoy - it's a great place to meet people from all over the world.
Thanks!
KC ~=F5=BF=F5~
"We raise hopes here until they are old enough to fend for themselves."
Mike Callahan - Callahan's Crosstime Saloon (Spider Robinson)
From: Resnet Forum [mailto:RESNET-L@LISTSERV.ND.EDU]<mailto:[mailto:RESNET-=
L@LISTSERV.ND.EDU]> On Behalf Of Johnathan W. Kerns
Sent: Thursday, October 20, 2011 4:46 AM
To: RESNET-L@LISTSERV.ND.EDU<mailto:RESNET-L@LISTSERV.ND.EDU>
Subject: Re: Second Life
Stuart,
Which Dell model were you using the program on? I'm curious If it was a Del=
l OptiPlex 755. Second Life worked fine on some of our older 755's, but aft=
er the most recent Second Life update, the program will no longer run on th=
ese machines. We may just need to roll back to the previous version.
Thanks for the info!
From: Resnet Forum [mailto:RESNET-L@LISTSERV.ND.EDU]<mailto:[mailto:RESNET-=
L@LISTSERV.ND.EDU]> On Behalf Of Nicoll, Stuart
Sent: Wednesday, October 19, 2011 4:43 PM
To: RESNET-L@LISTSERV.ND.EDU<mailto:RESNET-L@LISTSERV.ND.EDU>
Subject: Re: Second Life
Yes, we had it installed for a "class" last semester, and experienced crash=
es after launch.
It is very picky about video driver.
I think I ended up getting the very latest driver direct from Intel rather =
than from Dell which fixed the problem.
Stuart Nicoll
IT Public Lab Coordinator
University of Rochester
Information Technology - Classroom Technology Services
Lower Hoyt Hall, Rochester, NY 14627
585-275-6416
stuart.nicoll@rochester.edu<mailto:stuart.nicoll@rochester.edu>
From: Resnet Forum [mailto:RESNET-L@LISTSERV.ND.EDU]<mailto:[mailto:RESNET-=
L@LISTSERV.ND.EDU]> On Behalf Of Johnathan W. Kerns
Sent: Wednesday, October 19, 2011 4:20 PM
To: RESNET-L@LISTSERV.ND.EDU<mailto:RESNET-L@LISTSERV.ND.EDU>
Subject: Second Life
Hello all,
I was wondering if any of you use the program Second Life? If so, have you =
ran across any issues of continuous crashing when attempting to open the vi=
ewer?
Thank you all very much for all you do!
Respectfully,
Johnathan W. Kerns
Technology Support Analyst
Division of Information Technology
University of North Carolina Pembroke
(910) 521-6843
johnathan.kerns@uncp.edu<mailto:johnathan.kerns@uncp.edu>
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nk=3Dpurple><div class=3DWordSection1><p class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'f=
ont-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Kathy,<o:=
p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;fon=
t-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>=
<p class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",=
"sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Thank you very much for this info. It is very i=
nformative. :-)<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'fo=
nt-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> =
;</o:p></span></p><div><div style=3D'border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1=
.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=3DMsoNormal><b><span style=3D'font=
-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style=
=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> Resnet Forum [mail=
to:RESNET-L@LISTSERV.ND.EDU] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Casey, Kathy<br><b>Sent:</=
b> Thursday, October 20, 2011 2:38 PM<br><b>To:</b> RESNET-L@LISTSERV.ND.ED=
U<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: Second Life<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p cl=
ass=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'fo=
nt-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>As a perso=
nal user of Second Life (SL), I’m familiar with a lot of the quirks o=
f the various viewers. SL is in the midst of a huge OS upgrade that i=
s playing havoc with the entire grid, running rolling restarts throughout t=
he grid for days on end. This is not the normal condition of the grid=
, it is an extraordinary circumstance that will be resolved once they compl=
ete the work, which should be very soon. It is inconvenient and messy=
if the restarts occur during a class, but they usually only take a few min=
utes. Normally they do rolling restarts on Wednesdays at 5am and comp=
lete them by about 10am Second Life Time (SLT) which equals Pacific Time si=
nce SL is based in San Francisco.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal=
><span style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#=
1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'fon=
t-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>SL recently=
released Viewer 3 which (according to the users) is a crashy little bugger=
and Viewer 2, Firestorm or Phoenix 1.5.2.1185 is recommended instead until=
it is revised. All these changes are to support a new technology cal=
led “mesh” which is quite revolutionary and will change the =
220;face” of SL quite a bit, but it is not in common use as yet and t=
he older viewers will work just fine for now. Items that are mesh&nbs=
p; will appear as a multicolored basic shape (known as a prim or primitive)=
. Phoenix is used by over 60% of SL users because of its ease of use,=
stability and low crash rate.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><s=
pan style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F4=
97D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-s=
ize:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Since SL is a =
virtual world, the quality of the video card and driver is key to the SL ex=
perience. A high quality video card and the latest drivers will fix m=
any SL issues, as will a fast internet connection.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sa=
ns-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><=
span style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F=
497D'>Grid status and restart schedules:<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMs=
oNormal><span style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";=
color:#1F497D'><a href=3D"http://status.secondlifegrid.net/">http://status.=
secondlifegrid.net/</a><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span sty=
le=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o=
:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:11.=
0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Viewers ranked by cra=
sh rate:<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size=
:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><a href=3D"http:/=
/wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/Third_Party_Viewer_Directory">http://wiki.secondl=
ife.com/wiki/Third_Party_Viewer_Directory</a><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=
=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-se=
rif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'=
>Enjoy – it’s a great place to meet people from all over the wo=
rld.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:11.=
0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></sp=
an></p><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><b><i><span style=3D'font-size:13.5pt;font=
-family:"Monotype Corsiva";color:blue'>Thanks!</span></i></b><span style=3D=
'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> <br></=
span><i><span style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:n=
avy'>KC</span></i><span style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sa=
ns-serif";color:#1F497D'> ~=F5=BF=F5~<br></span><b><i><span sty=
le=3D'font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Bradley Hand ITC";color:#003399'>“=
;We raise hopes here until they are old enough to fend for themselves."=
;<o:p></o:p></span></i></b></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><i><span style=3D'font-=
size:10.0pt;font-family:"Bradley Hand ITC";color:black'>Mike Callahan - Cal=
lahan's Crosstime Saloon (Spider Robinson)<o:p></o:p></span></i></p></div><=
p class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","=
sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style=3D'b=
order:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p cla=
ss=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:.5in'><b><span style=3D'font-size:10.0p=
t;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style=3D'font-si=
ze:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> Resnet Forum <a href=3D"mailt=
o:[mailto:RESNET-L@LISTSERV.ND.EDU]">[mailto:RESNET-L@LISTSERV.ND.EDU]</a> =
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Johnathan W. Kerns<br><b>Sent:</b> Thursday, October 20=
, 2011 4:46 AM<br><b>To:</b> <a href=3D"mailto:RESNET-L@LISTSERV.ND.EDU">RE=
SNET-L@LISTSERV.ND.EDU</a><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: Second Life<o:p></o:p></s=
pan></p></div></div><p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:.5in'><o:p>&n=
bsp;</o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:.5in'><span style=
=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Stua=
rt,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:.5in'><s=
pan style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F4=
97D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:=
.5in'><span style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";co=
lor:#1F497D'>Which Dell model were you using the program on? I’m curi=
ous If it was a Dell OptiPlex 755. Second Life worked fine on some of our o=
lder 755’s, but after the most recent Second Life update, the program=
will no longer run on these machines. We may just need to roll back to the=
previous version.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margi=
n-left:.5in'><span style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-se=
rif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal style=
=3D'margin-left:.5in'><span style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri"=
,"sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Thanks for the info!<o:p></o:p></span></p><p c=
lass=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:.5in'><span style=3D'font-size:11.0pt=
;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span>=
</p><p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:.5in'><span style=3D'font-siz=
e:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p=
></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:.5in'><span style=3D'=
font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p>&nb=
sp;</o:p></span></p><div><div style=3D'border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF=
1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left=
:.5in'><b><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"=
'>From:</span></b><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","san=
s-serif"'> Resnet Forum <a href=3D"mailto:[mailto:RESNET-L@LISTSERV.ND.EDU]=
">[mailto:RESNET-L@LISTSERV.ND.EDU]</a> <b>On Behalf Of </b>Nicoll, Stuart<=
br><b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, October 19, 2011 4:43 PM<br><b>To:</b> <a href=
=3D"mailto:RESNET-L@LISTSERV.ND.EDU">RESNET-L@LISTSERV.ND.EDU</a><br><b>Sub=
ject:</b> Re: Second Life<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=3DMsoNo=
rmal style=3D'margin-left:.5in'><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal s=
tyle=3D'margin-left:.5in'><span style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Cali=
bri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Yes, we had it installed for a “clas=
s” last semester, and experienced crashes after launch.<o:p></o:p></s=
pan></p><p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:.5in'><span style=3D'font=
-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>It is very p=
icky about video driver.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D=
'margin-left:.5in'><span style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","s=
ans-serif";color:#1F497D'>I think I ended up getting the very latest driver=
direct from Intel rather than from Dell which fixed the problem.<o:p></o:p=
></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:.5in'><span style=3D'=
font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p>&nb=
sp;</o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:.5in'><span s=
tyle=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>=
<o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:=
.5in'><span style=3D'font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";col=
or:#1F497D'>Stuart Nicoll<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal style=
=3D'margin-left:.5in'><span style=3D'font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",=
"sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>IT Public Lab Coordinator<o:p></o:p></span></p>=
<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:.5in'><span style=3D'font-size:8.=
0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>University of Rochest=
er<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:.5in'><sp=
an style=3D'font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497=
D'>Information Technology – Classroom Technology Services<o:p></o:p><=
/span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:.5in'><span style=3D'fo=
nt-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Lower Hoyt =
Hall, Rochester, NY 14627<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal style=
=3D'margin-left:.5in'><span style=3D'font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",=
"sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>585-275-6416<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMs=
oNormal style=3D'margin-left:.5in'><span style=3D'font-size:8.0pt;font-fami=
ly:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><a href=3D"mailto:stuart.nicoll@ro=
chester.edu">stuart.nicoll@rochester.edu</a><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:.5in'><span style=3D'font-size:11.0p=
t;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span=
></p><div><div style=3D'border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:=
3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:.5in'><b><span=
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span><=
/b><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> Resn=
et Forum <a href=3D"mailto:[mailto:RESNET-L@LISTSERV.ND.EDU]">[mailto:RESNE=
T-L@LISTSERV.ND.EDU]</a> <b>On Behalf Of </b>Johnathan W. Kerns<br><b>Sent:=
</b> Wednesday, October 19, 2011 4:20 PM<br><b>To:</b> <a href=3D"mailto:RE=
SNET-L@LISTSERV.ND.EDU">RESNET-L@LISTSERV.ND.EDU</a><br><b>Subject:</b> Sec=
ond Life<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'mar=
gin-left:.5in'><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D=
'margin-left:.5in'><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sa=
ns-serif";color:black'>Hello all,<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=
=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:.5in'><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;fon=
t-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></d=
iv><div><p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:.5in'><span style=3D'font=
-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:black'>I was wondering=
if any of you use the program Second Life? If so, have you ran across any =
issues of continuous crashing when attempting to open the viewer? <o:p></o:=
p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:.5in'><sp=
an style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:black'=
> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margi=
n-left:.5in'><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-ser=
if";color:black'>Thank you all very much for all you do!<o:p></o:p></span><=
/p></div><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:.5in'><span st=
yle=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:black'>&nbs=
p;<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-lef=
t:.5in'><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";c=
olor:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal sty=
le=3D'margin-left:.5in'><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma=
","sans-serif";color:black'>Respectfully,<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><=
p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:.5in'><span style=3D'font-size:10.=
0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span>=
</p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:.5in'><span style=
=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:black'>Johnath=
an W. Kerns<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'm=
argin-left:.5in'><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans=
-serif";color:black'>Technology Support Analyst<br>Division of Information =
Technology<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'ma=
rgin-left:.5in'><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-=
serif";color:black'>University of North Carolina Pembroke<o:p></o:p></span>=
</p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:.5in'><span style=
=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:black'>(910) 5=
21-6843<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margi=
n-left:.5in'><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-ser=
if";color:black'><a href=3D"mailto:johnathan.kerns@uncp.edu">johnathan.kern=
s@uncp.edu</a><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
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