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Re: Second Life
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Casey, Kathy)
Thu Oct 20 14:41:53 2011
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From: "Casey, Kathy" <KCasey@csuchico.edu>
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As a personal user of Second Life (SL), I'm familiar with a lot of the quir=
ks of the various viewers. SL is in the midst of a huge OS upgrade that is=
playing havoc with the entire grid, running rolling restarts throughout th=
e grid for days on end. This is not the normal condition of the grid, it i=
s an extraordinary circumstance that will be resolved once they complete th=
e work, which should be very soon. It is inconvenient and messy if the res=
tarts occur during a class, but they usually only take a few minutes. Norm=
ally they do rolling restarts on Wednesdays at 5am and complete them by abo=
ut 10am Second Life Time (SLT) which equals Pacific Time since SL is based =
in San Francisco.
SL recently released Viewer 3 which (according to the users) is a crashy li=
ttle bugger and Viewer 2, Firestorm or Phoenix 1.5.2.1185 is recommended in=
stead until it is revised. All these changes are to support a new technolo=
gy called "mesh" which is quite revolutionary and will change the "face" of=
SL quite a bit, but it is not in common use as yet and the older viewers w=
ill work just fine for now. Items that are mesh will appear as a multicol=
ored basic shape (known as a prim or primitive). Phoenix is used by over 6=
0% of SL users because of its ease of use, stability and low crash rate.
Since SL is a virtual world, the quality of the video card and driver is ke=
y to the SL experience. A high quality video card and the latest drivers w=
ill fix many SL issues, as will a fast internet connection.
Grid status and restart schedules:
http://status.secondlifegrid.net/
Viewers ranked by crash rate:
http://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/Third_Party_Viewer_Directory
Enjoy - it's a great place to meet people from all over the world.
Thanks!
KC ~=F5=BF=F5~
"We raise hopes here until they are old enough to fend for themselves."
Mike Callahan - Callahan's Crosstime Saloon (Spider Robinson)
From: Resnet Forum [mailto:RESNET-L@LISTSERV.ND.EDU] On Behalf Of Johnathan=
W. Kerns
Sent: Thursday, October 20, 2011 4:46 AM
To: RESNET-L@LISTSERV.ND.EDU
Subject: Re: Second Life
Stuart,
Which Dell model were you using the program on? I'm curious If it was a Del=
l OptiPlex 755. Second Life worked fine on some of our older 755's, but aft=
er the most recent Second Life update, the program will no longer run on th=
ese machines. We may just need to roll back to the previous version.
Thanks for the info!
From: Resnet Forum [mailto:RESNET-L@LISTSERV.ND.EDU] On Behalf Of Nicoll, S=
tuart
Sent: Wednesday, October 19, 2011 4:43 PM
To: RESNET-L@LISTSERV.ND.EDU
Subject: Re: Second Life
Yes, we had it installed for a "class" last semester, and experienced crash=
es after launch.
It is very picky about video driver.
I think I ended up getting the very latest driver direct from Intel rather =
than from Dell which fixed the problem.
Stuart Nicoll
IT Public Lab Coordinator
University of Rochester
Information Technology - Classroom Technology Services
Lower Hoyt Hall, Rochester, NY 14627
585-275-6416
stuart.nicoll@rochester.edu<mailto:stuart.nicoll@rochester.edu>
From: Resnet Forum [mailto:RESNET-L@LISTSERV.ND.EDU]<mailto:[mailto:RESNET-=
L@LISTSERV.ND.EDU]> On Behalf Of Johnathan W. Kerns
Sent: Wednesday, October 19, 2011 4:20 PM
To: RESNET-L@LISTSERV.ND.EDU<mailto:RESNET-L@LISTSERV.ND.EDU>
Subject: Second Life
Hello all,
I was wondering if any of you use the program Second Life? If so, have you =
ran across any issues of continuous crashing when attempting to open the vi=
ewer?
Thank you all very much for all you do!
Respectfully,
Johnathan W. Kerns
Technology Support Analyst
Division of Information Technology
University of North Carolina Pembroke
(910) 521-6843
johnathan.kerns@uncp.edu<mailto:johnathan.kerns@uncp.edu>
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nk=3Dpurple><div class=3DWordSection1><p class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'f=
ont-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>As a pers=
onal user of Second Life (SL), I’m familiar with a lot of the quirks =
of the various viewers.=A0 SL is in the midst of a huge OS upgrade that is =
playing havoc with the entire grid, running rolling restarts throughout the=
grid for days on end.=A0 This is not the normal condition of the grid, it =
is an extraordinary circumstance that will be resolved once they complete t=
he work, which should be very soon.=A0 It is inconvenient and messy if the =
restarts occur during a class, but they usually only take a few minutes.=A0=
Normally they do rolling restarts on Wednesdays at 5am and complete them b=
y about 10am Second Life Time (SLT) which equals Pacific Time since SL is b=
ased in San Francisco.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span styl=
e=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:=
p> </o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:11.0=
pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>SL recently released V=
iewer 3 which (according to the users) is a crashy little bugger and Viewer=
2, Firestorm or Phoenix 1.5.2.1185 is recommended instead until it is revi=
sed.=A0 All these changes are to support a new technology called “mes=
h” which is quite revolutionary and will change the “face”=
; of SL quite a bit, but it is not in common use as yet and the older viewe=
rs will work just fine for now.=A0 Items that are mesh=A0 will appear as a =
multicolored basic shape (known as a prim or primitive).=A0 Phoenix is used=
by over 60% of SL users because of its ease of use, stability and low cras=
h rate.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:=
11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p><=
/span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:=
"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Since SL is a virtual world, the qual=
ity of the video card and driver is key to the SL experience.=A0 A high qua=
lity video card and the latest drivers will fix many SL issues, as will a f=
ast internet connection.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span st=
yle=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><=
o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:11=
.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Grid status and rest=
art schedules:<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'fon=
t-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><a href=3D"=
http://status.secondlifegrid.net/">http://status.secondlifegrid.net/</a><o:=
p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;fon=
t-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>=
<p class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",=
"sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Viewers ranked by crash rate:<o:p></o:p></span>=
</p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calib=
ri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><a href=3D"http://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/=
Third_Party_Viewer_Directory">http://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/Third_Party_V=
iewer_Directory</a><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span style=
=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p=
> </o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:11.0p=
t;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Enjoy – it’=
s a great place to meet people from all over the world.<o:p></o:p></span></=
p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri=
","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><p class=3DM=
soNormal><b><i><span style=3D'font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Monotype Corsiv=
a";color:blue'>Thanks!</span></i></b><span style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-f=
amily:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> <br></span><i><span style=3D'f=
ont-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:navy'>KC</span></i><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'=
>=A0=A0 ~=F5=BF=F5~<br></span><b><i><span style=3D'font-size:14.0pt;font-fa=
mily:"Bradley Hand ITC";color:#003399'>“We raise hopes here until the=
y are old enough to fend for themselves."<o:p></o:p></span></i></b></p=
><p class=3DMsoNormal><i><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Bradl=
ey Hand ITC";color:black'>Mike Callahan - Callahan's Crosstime Saloon (Spid=
er Robinson)</span></i><i><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Brad=
ley Hand ITC";color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></i></p></div><p class=3DMsoNo=
rmal><span style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";col=
or:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style=3D'border:none;bord=
er-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'margin-left:.5in'><b><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"=
Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-=
family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> Resnet Forum [mailto:RESNET-L@LISTSERV.ND.ED=
U] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Johnathan W. Kerns<br><b>Sent:</b> Thursday, October=
20, 2011 4:46 AM<br><b>To:</b> RESNET-L@LISTSERV.ND.EDU<br><b>Subject:</b>=
Re: Second Life<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=3DMsoNormal styl=
e=3D'margin-left:.5in'><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'm=
argin-left:.5in'><span style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","san=
s-serif";color:#1F497D'>Stuart,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal s=
tyle=3D'margin-left:.5in'><span style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Cali=
bri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=3DMso=
Normal style=3D'margin-left:.5in'><span style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-fami=
ly:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Which Dell model were you using th=
e program on? I’m curious If it was a Dell OptiPlex 755. Second Life =
worked fine on some of our older 755’s, but after the most recent Sec=
ond Life update, the program will no longer run on these machines. We may j=
ust need to roll back to the previous version.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p clas=
s=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:.5in'><span style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;fo=
nt-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p=
><p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:.5in'><span style=3D'font-size:1=
1.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Thanks for the info=
!<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:.5in'><spa=
n style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497=
D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:.5=
in'><span style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";colo=
r:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin=
-left:.5in'><span style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-ser=
if";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style=3D'border:no=
ne;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=3DMso=
Normal style=3D'margin-left:.5in'><b><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-f=
amily:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style=3D'font-size:10.0p=
t;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> Resnet Forum [mailto:RESNET-L@LISTSER=
V.ND.EDU] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Nicoll, Stuart<br><b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, Oct=
ober 19, 2011 4:43 PM<br><b>To:</b> RESNET-L@LISTSERV.ND.EDU<br><b>Subject:=
</b> Re: Second Life<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'margin-left:.5in'><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal style=
=3D'margin-left:.5in'><span style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri"=
,"sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Yes, we had it installed for a “class=
221; last semester, and experienced crashes after launch.<o:p></o:p></span>=
</p><p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:.5in'><span style=3D'font-siz=
e:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>It is very picky=
about video driver.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'mar=
gin-left:.5in'><span style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-=
serif";color:#1F497D'>I think I ended up getting the very latest driver dir=
ect from Intel rather than from Dell which fixed the problem.<o:p></o:p></s=
pan></p><p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:.5in'><span style=3D'font=
-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> <=
/o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:.5in'><span style=
=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p=
> </o:p></span></p><div><p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:.5in=
'><span style=3D'font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#=
1F497D'>Stuart Nicoll<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'ma=
rgin-left:.5in'><span style=3D'font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-=
serif";color:#1F497D'>IT Public Lab Coordinator<o:p></o:p></span></p><p cla=
ss=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:.5in'><span style=3D'font-size:8.0pt;fo=
nt-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>University of Rochester<o:p=
></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:.5in'><span sty=
le=3D'font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Inf=
ormation Technology – Classroom Technology Services<o:p></o:p></span>=
</p><p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:.5in'><span style=3D'font-siz=
e:8.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Lower Hoyt Hall, =
Rochester, NY 14627<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'marg=
in-left:.5in'><span style=3D'font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-se=
rif";color:#1F497D'>585-275-6416<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'margin-left:.5in'><span style=3D'font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Cali=
bri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><a href=3D"mailto:stuart.nicoll@rochester.=
edu">stuart.nicoll@rochester.edu</a><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p class=3D=
MsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:.5in'><span style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-f=
amily:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><di=
v><div style=3D'border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0i=
n 0in 0in'><p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:.5in'><b><span style=
=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><sp=
an style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> Resnet For=
um <a href=3D"mailto:[mailto:RESNET-L@LISTSERV.ND.EDU]">[mailto:RESNET-L@LI=
STSERV.ND.EDU]</a> <b>On Behalf Of </b>Johnathan W. Kerns<br><b>Sent:</b> W=
ednesday, October 19, 2011 4:20 PM<br><b>To:</b> <a href=3D"mailto:RESNET-L=
@LISTSERV.ND.EDU">RESNET-L@LISTSERV.ND.EDU</a><br><b>Subject:</b> Second Li=
fe<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-le=
ft:.5in'><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margi=
n-left:.5in'><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-ser=
if";color:black'>Hello all,<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoN=
ormal style=3D'margin-left:.5in'><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-famil=
y:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div=
><p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:.5in'><span style=3D'font-size:1=
0.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:black'>I was wondering if any=
of you use the program Second Life? If so, have you ran across any issues =
of continuous crashing when attempting to open the viewer? <o:p></o:p></spa=
n></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:.5in'><span styl=
e=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:black'> =
<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:=
.5in'><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";col=
or:black'>Thank you all very much for all you do!<o:p></o:p></span></p></di=
v><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:.5in'><span style=3D'=
font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:black'> <o:p>=
</o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:.5in'=
><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:bl=
ack'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'm=
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