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Re: eco-friendly computing labs
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Mike King)
Thu Oct 13 16:46:13 2011
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Cool. I'll have to re-investigate during some downtime in the next few
months
On Thu, Oct 13, 2011 at 4:16 PM, Doughty, Marc <marc_doughty@brown.edu>wrote:
> Actually, a lot of them work fine on XP clients. That's what those optional
> ''group policy client side extensions" Windows Updates do.
>
>
> - Marc Doughty
> "If you aren't sure who is the give-way vessel, you are the give-way
> vessel."
>
>
> On Thu, Oct 13, 2011 at 2:46 PM, Mike King <me@mpking.com> wrote:
>
>> Aha.
>>
>> But those new policies don't apply to XP, do they?
>>
>> Mike
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Oct 13, 2011 at 1:31 PM, Doughty, Marc <marc_doughty@brown.edu>wrote:
>>
>>> I use the RSAT tools on a Server 2008 R2 box. The tools from Server 2003
>>> weren't letting me use Windows 7 features that I needed (like the improved
>>> power management). You -can- use newer RSAT tools on an older domain,
>>> despite widespread misconceptions.
>>>
>>>
>>> - Marc Doughty
>>> "If you aren't sure who is the give-way vessel, you are the give-way
>>> vessel."
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thu, Oct 13, 2011 at 12:19 PM, Mike King <me@mpking.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> You got an ADM for that power policy? Does it apply to XP machines?
>>>> We've never really gotten our GP power policies to work reliably.
>>>>
>>>> Mike
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, Oct 13, 2011 at 11:09 AM, Doughty, Marc <marc_doughty@brown.edu
>>>> > wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> We use Group Policy to set a power plan in the labs. Previously only
>>>>> the screens would sleep, but now the computers themselves go to bed after 30
>>>>> minutes inactivity at the login screen (the AutoLogoff screensaver ends idle
>>>>> sessions after 15 minutes, so nobody is ever 'sleeped-off' their machine).
>>>>>
>>>>> I don't have hard numbers, but our computers consume about 80 watts
>>>>> each at idle, and stats look like they're 'asleep' about 50% of the time...
>>>>> There are 250 of them... At 8 cents a kilowatt-hour, that's about $7K a year
>>>>> in savings (my math might be WAY off). It also reduces cooling costs
>>>>> dramatically; there are rooms that used to have 24/7 'boosted' AC units that
>>>>> are off most of the time now.
>>>>>
>>>>> So... Fifteen minutes in GPMC saves $15K a year, and keeps about a
>>>>> bazillion pounds of CO2 out of the atmosphere.
>>>>>
>>>>> - Marc Doughty
>>>>> "If you aren't sure who is the give-way vessel, you are the give-way
>>>>> vessel."
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Wed, Oct 12, 2011 at 8:09 PM, Stacey Kimmel-Smith <sek2@lehigh.edu>wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I'm interested in finding out what other institutions are doing to
>>>>>> make their existing public computing labs more green/environmentally
>>>>>> friendly. From power saving techniques to reducing default margins on WORD
>>>>>> software, making eco-friendly fonts available, whatever. Please share!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Stacey Kimmel-Smith
>>>>>> Lehigh University
>>>>>>
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Cool. =A0I'll have to re-investigate during some downtime in the next f=
ew months<br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Thu, Oct 13, 2011 at 4:16 PM=
, Doughty, Marc <span dir=3D"ltr"><<a href=3D"mailto:marc_doughty@brown.=
edu">marc_doughty@brown.edu</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1p=
x #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">Actually, a lot of them work fine on XP cli=
ents. That's what those optional ''group policy client side ext=
ensions" Windows Updates do.<div class=3D"im">
<br clear=3D"all"><br>- Marc Doughty<br>"If you aren't sure who is=
the give-way vessel, you are the give-way vessel."<br>
<br><br></div><div><div></div><div class=3D"h5"><div class=3D"gmail_quote">=
On Thu, Oct 13, 2011 at 2:46 PM, Mike King <span dir=3D"ltr"><<a href=3D=
"mailto:me@mpking.com" target=3D"_blank">me@mpking.com</a>></span> wrote=
:<br>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1p=
x #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
Aha.<div><br></div><div>But those new policies don't apply to XP, do th=
ey?</div><div><br></div><div><font color=3D"#888888">Mike</font><div><div><=
/div><div><br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Thu, Oct 13, 2011 at 1:31 P=
M, Doughty, Marc <span dir=3D"ltr"><<a href=3D"mailto:marc_doughty@brown=
.edu" target=3D"_blank">marc_doughty@brown.edu</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1p=
x #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">I use the RSAT tools on a Server 2008 R2 box=
. The tools from Server 2003 weren't letting me use Windows 7 features =
that I needed (like the improved power management). You -can- use newer RSA=
T tools on an older domain, despite widespread misconceptions.<div>
<br clear=3D"all">
<br>- Marc Doughty<br>"If you aren't sure who is the give-way vess=
el, you are the give-way vessel."<br>
<br><br></div><div><div></div><div><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Thu, Oct 1=
3, 2011 at 12:19 PM, Mike King <span dir=3D"ltr"><<a href=3D"mailto:me@m=
pking.com" target=3D"_blank">me@mpking.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1p=
x #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
You got an ADM for that power policy? =A0Does it apply to XP machines? =A0W=
e've never really gotten our GP power policies to work reliably.<div><b=
r></div><div><font color=3D"#888888">Mike</font><div><div></div><div>
<br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Thu, Oct 13, 2011 at 11:09 AM, Dought=
y, Marc <span dir=3D"ltr"><<a href=3D"mailto:marc_doughty@brown.edu" tar=
get=3D"_blank">marc_doughty@brown.edu</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1p=
x #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">We use Group Policy to set a power plan in t=
he labs. Previously only the screens would sleep, but now the computers the=
mselves go to bed after 30 minutes inactivity at the login screen (the Auto=
Logoff screensaver ends idle sessions after 15 minutes, so nobody is ever &=
#39;sleeped-off' their machine).<br>
<br>I don't have hard numbers, but our computers consume about 80 watts=
each at idle, and stats look like they're 'asleep' about 50% o=
f the time... There are 250 of them... At 8 cents a kilowatt-hour, that'=
;s about $7K a year in savings (my math might be WAY off). It also reduces =
cooling costs dramatically; there are rooms that used to have 24/7 'boo=
sted' AC units that are off most of the time now.<br>
<br>So... Fifteen minutes in GPMC saves $15K a year, and keeps about a bazi=
llion pounds of CO2 out of the atmosphere.<br clear=3D"all"><font color=3D"=
#888888"><br>- Marc Doughty<br>"If you aren't sure who is the give=
-way vessel, you are the give-way vessel."</font><div>
<div></div><div><br>
<br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Wed, Oct 12, 2011 at 8:09 PM, Stacey =
Kimmel-Smith <span dir=3D"ltr"><<a href=3D"mailto:sek2@lehigh.edu" targe=
t=3D"_blank">sek2@lehigh.edu</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"=
gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-=
left:1ex">
Hi,<br>
<br>
I'm interested in finding out what other institutions are doing to make=
their existing public computing labs more green/environmentally friendly. =
From power saving techniques to reducing default margins on WORD software, =
making eco-friendly fonts available, whatever. Please share!<br>
<br>
Thanks,<br>
<br>
Stacey Kimmel-Smith<br>
Lehigh University<br>
<br>
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