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Re: Student Antivirus Replacement Project
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Soyez-Miller, Clyde D)
Wed Oct 12 15:21:48 2011
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Hello,
We technically require it, but aren't all that stern about it. We generall=
y recommend iAntivirus for student computers.
-Clyde
Clyde Soyez-Miller
ResNet<http://resnet.missouristate.edu/> Administrator, Residence Life and =
Services, Missouri State University
ClydeMiller@missouristate.edu| 417.836.6100 | 417.837.2327 (fax)
From: Resnet Forum [mailto:RESNET-L@LISTSERV.ND.EDU] On Behalf Of Rizzo, Ji=
m
Sent: Wednesday, October 12, 2011 2:08 PM
To: RESNET-L@LISTSERV.ND.EDU
Subject: Re: Student Antivirus Replacement Project
Do any of you require that Macs have anti-virus software? Our policy curren=
tly requires it for all. We're on McAfee now and offer it to students (both=
for Windows and OS X).
Jim
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From: Derek Buchanan <buchands@GMAIL.COM<mailto:buchands@GMAIL.COM>>
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Date: Wed, 12 Oct 2011 15:05:18 -0400
To: Resnet Forum <RESNET-L@listserv.nd.edu<mailto:RESNET-L@listserv.nd.edu>=
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Subject: Re: [RESNET-L] Student Antivirus Replacement Project
Andy,
Respones inline...
1. What did/would you move to?
We moved to Forefront for Faculty/Staff (which our license currently includ=
es). Students can run whatever they want or if they need one, we recommend=
Microsoft Security Essentials as a freebie.
2. How do you handle the PR campaign to the students to get them to switch=
? We don't want to tell them we've been giving them a bad product that we =
paid for for the last few years, but we still want them to switch. Also, f=
aculty/staff may not make the switch at the same time, so we don't want the=
m to see the ads and make a fuss over not getting the best product.
We did not do a PR campaign per se. We stopped using Cisco Clean Access wh=
ich was forcing select AV clients. We were behind at least two versions an=
d the cost was just too high. We went with Palo Alto for a network protect=
ion device. There is no checking for AV at this point. Students are promp=
ted for user ID and password on a webpage before they can get on the intern=
et.
3. Do you have any gripes over Symantec you'd like to share?
Symantec, was slow in my opinion from the previous college that I worked at=
. The install/uninstall did not work as advertised. (Say hello to Norton R=
emoval Tool!) We switched off from Mcafee here at MBC as the price kept go=
ing up and the performance kept going down. It was a waste of time and mon=
ey.
Hope that helps,
Derek
Mary Baldwin College
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<p class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",=
"sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>We technically require it, but aren’t all=
that stern about it. We generally recommend iAntivirus for student c=
omputers.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-siz=
e:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p=
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s=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-se=
rif";color:#7F7F7F'>Clyde Soyez-Miller<br><a href=3D"http://resnet.missouri=
state.edu/"><span style=3D'color:blue'>ResNet</span></a> Administrator, Res=
idence Life and Services, Missouri State University<br></span><u><span styl=
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","sans-serif"'> Resnet Forum [mailto:RESNET-L@LISTSERV.ND.EDU] <b>On Behal=
f Of </b>Rizzo, Jim<br><b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, October 12, 2011 2:08 PM<br>=
<b>To:</b> RESNET-L@LISTSERV.ND.EDU<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: Student Antiviru=
s Replacement Project<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=3DMsoNormal=
><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'fo=
nt-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>Do any of yo=
u require that Macs have anti-virus software? Our policy currently requires=
it for all. We're on McAfee now and offer it to students (both for Windows=
and OS X).<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span styl=
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: </b>Wed, 12 Oct 2011 15:05:18 -0400<br><b>To: </b>Resnet Forum <<a hre=
f=3D"mailto:RESNET-L@listserv.nd.edu">RESNET-L@listserv.nd.edu</a>><br><=
b>Subject: </b>Re: [RESNET-L] Student Antivirus Replacement Project<o:p></o=
:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:10.5=
pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span>=
</p></div><p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span style=
=3D'font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>Andy, =
<br>Respones inline...<o:p></o:p></span></p><div><blockquote style=3D'borde=
r:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 6.0pt;margin-lef=
t:4.8pt;margin-right:0in'><p class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:10.=
5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>1. What did/would=
you move to?<o:p></o:p></span></p></blockquote><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><=
span style=3D'font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:bla=
ck'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span style=
=3D'font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>We mov=
ed to Forefront for Faculty/Staff (which our license currently includes).&n=
bsp; Students can run whatever they want or if they need one, we recommend =
Microsoft Security Essentials as a freebie.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div=
><p class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri"=
,"sans-serif";color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><blockquote st=
yle=3D'border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 6.0p=
t;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0in'><p class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'f=
ont-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>2. Ho=
w do you handle the PR campaign to the students to get them to switch? &nbs=
p;We don't want to tell them we've been giving them a bad product that we p=
aid for for the last few years, but we still want them to switch. Als=
o, faculty/staff may not make the switch at the same time, so we don't want=
them to see the ads and make a fuss over not getting the best product.<o:p=
></o:p></span></p></blockquote><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'fon=
t-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'> <o:p></=
o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:10.=
5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>We did not do a PR camp=
aign per se. We stopped using Cisco Clean Access which was forcing se=
lect AV clients. We were behind at least two versions and the cost wa=
s just too high. We went with Palo Alto for a network protection devi=
ce. There is no checking for AV at this point. Students are pro=
mpted for user ID and password on a webpage before they can get on the inte=
rnet. <br> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><blockquote style=3D'bord=
er:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 6.0pt;margin-le=
ft:4.8pt;margin-right:0in'><p class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:10=
.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'><br>3. Do you ha=
ve any gripes over Symantec you'd like to share?<o:p></o:p></span></p></blo=
ckquote><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:10.5pt;font-fami=
ly:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><d=
iv><p class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibr=
i","sans-serif";color:black'>Symantec, was slow in my opinion from the prev=
ious college that I worked at. The install/uninstall did not work as advert=
ised. (Say hello to Norton Removal Tool!) We switched off from =
Mcafee here at MBC as the price kept going up and the performance kept goin=
g down. It was a waste of time and money.<br><br>Hope that helps,<br>=
Derek<br>Mary Baldwin College<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=3DM=
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