[26471] in resnet
Re: blocking p2p?
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Doughty, Marc)
Fri Jun 3 11:18:15 2011
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Date: Fri, 3 Jun 2011 11:17:58 -0400
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From: "Doughty, Marc" <marc_doughty@brown.edu>
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Greetings,
I really dislike the idea of blocking or throttling any service,
especially when such excellent QoS tools are available. Theoretically, don'=
t
you -want- to use as much of your bandwidth as you can, but still have a
responsive system? We do pay for the width of the pipe, as opposed to the
amount of data going over it, after all. I don't do network-side stuff here=
,
but I've successfully used QoS in small businesses to get more
bang-for-the-buck and responsiveness from the network while still allowing
all kinds of traffic.
As for DMCA stuff, it might be helpful to put together a survey and
distribute it here. It would be interesting to see how many of these
different schools are getting, and how it compares to their mitigation
strategies. Basically, collect how schools block/mitigate P2P impact on the
technical side, how they deal with DMCA issues when they arise, and how
often they arise per-capita.
- Marc Doughty
"If you aren't sure who is the give-way vessel, you are the give-way
vessel."
On Fri, Jun 3, 2011 at 10:41 AM, Crowe, Sheila <sheila@montana.edu> wrote:
> Please contact me (off-list if you=92d like) if you are blocking p2p apps
> like BitTorrents and/or gnutella-like protocols.
>
>
>
> DMCA complaints are KILLING me and bandwidth is being consumed at record
> rates. We are considering blocking these protocols, in hopes that number=
s
> for both will improve, and would like to know what the student/customer
> response has been. Alternatively, if you have blocked these services in
> the past and are no longer doing, why the reversal? For example, does fea=
r
> of lynching have anything to do with it?
>
>
>
> I absolutely loathe that I am forced to be the protector of the digital
> copyright, so don=92t flame me for being the =93man.=94 Nor do I applaud
> thieves=85if you come down on the moral duty side.
>
>
>
> I wish that this could wait a couple of weeks for the conference, but it
> can=92t. Come to think of it, somebody=92s gotta do a BOF on this.
>
>
>
> Thanks in advance, everyone.
>
>
>
> Sheila Crowe
>
> Montana State University ResNet
>
> sheila@montana.edu
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Greetings,<br>=A0=A0=A0=A0 I really dislike the idea of blocking or throttl=
ing any service, especially when such excellent QoS tools are available. Th=
eoretically, don't you -want- to use as much of your bandwidth as you c=
an, but still have a responsive system? We do pay for the width of the pipe=
, as opposed to the amount of data going over it, after all. I don't do=
network-side stuff here, but I've successfully used QoS in small busin=
esses to get more bang-for-the-buck and responsiveness from the network whi=
le still allowing all kinds of traffic.<br>
=A0=A0=A0=A0 As for DMCA stuff, it might be helpful to put together a surve=
y and distribute it here. It would be interesting to see how many of these =
different schools are getting, and how it compares to their mitigation stra=
tegies. Basically, collect how schools block/mitigate P2P impact on the tec=
hnical side, how they deal with DMCA issues when they arise, and how often =
they arise per-capita.<br>
<br><br>- Marc Doughty<br>"If you aren't sure who is the give-way =
vessel, you are the give-way vessel."<br>
<br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Fri, Jun 3, 2011 at 10:41 AM, Crowe, =
Sheila <span dir=3D"ltr"><<a href=3D"mailto:sheila@montana.edu">sheila@m=
ontana.edu</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=
=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">
<div link=3D"blue" vlink=3D"purple" lang=3D"EN-US"><div><p class=3D"MsoNorm=
al">Please contact me (off-list if you=92d like) if you are blocking p2p ap=
ps like BitTorrents and/or gnutella-like protocols.=A0 </p><p class=3D"MsoN=
ormal">=A0</p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">DMCA complaints are KILLING me and bandwidth is bein=
g consumed at record rates.=A0 We are considering blocking these protocols,=
in hopes that numbers for both will improve, and would like to know what t=
he student/customer response has been.=A0 =A0Alternatively, if you have blo=
cked these services in the past and are no longer doing, why the reversal? =
For example, does fear of lynching have anything to do with it?=A0 </p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">=A0</p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">I absolutely loathe th=
at I am forced to be the protector of the digital copyright, so don=92t fla=
me me for being the =93man.=94=A0 Nor do I applaud thieves=85if you come do=
wn on the moral duty side.=A0 </p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">=A0</p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">I wish that this could=
wait a couple of weeks for the conference, but it can=92t.=A0 Come to thin=
k of it, somebody=92s gotta do a BOF on this.=A0 </p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"=
>=A0</p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">
Thanks in advance, everyone.</p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">=A0</p><p class=3D"M=
soNormal">Sheila Crowe</p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">Montana State University R=
esNet</p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><a href=3D"mailto:sheila@montana.edu" targe=
t=3D"_blank">sheila@montana.edu</a> =A0</p>
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