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Re: Computer boot up times

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Brian Gibson)
Mon May 16 19:53:13 2011

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Hi William.

I would suggest taking two computers that are identical and have one in 
the domain and one outside of the domain (I am assuming you use Active 
Directory). If the login times are very different with a domain machine 
I'd look at what user and computer group policies are being applied and 
whether or not the proper SRV are in DNS for the domain (are there 
missing entries, are there ghost entries for old DCs that no longer 
exist?). I assume you are not using roaming profiles correct? Having 
your profile sync and follow you are around can be a killer.

Just my two cents :-)




On 5/16/2011 5:36 PM, William Thieke wrote:
>
> Colleagues,
>
> Our IT staff have often heard the complaints from our Faculty and 
> Staff that our computers are “slow” and take forever to boot up…..We 
> have addressed with them the usual suspects that impact performance 
> and startup time:
>
> ·Security Software- Anti-Virus and related security software that take 
> up available resources and can slow boot time with initial scans.
>
> ·System Age- we maintain roughly a four-year computer replacement 
> cycle, but software installations, upgrades, security patches, and 
> general daily use accumulate can degrade performance over time.
>
> ·New software - tends to make more demands on memory and computer 
> speed than old software.
>
> ·Management Tools- used for remote access,  software distribution  and 
> other IT related functions.
>
> ·Viruses and Other Malware- can drastically impact performance
>
> While we know that system performance  can vary drastically, depending 
> on OS, memory and processor speed (our oldest systems are currently 
> Optiplex 210L’s-P4 3Ghz with 1-2 GB of RAM), Le Moyne College is 
> looking to determine what your institution might consider a “typical” 
> boot up time for your standard campus configuration computers…If you 
> could answer the following it would be greatly appreciated!!
>
> 1)Size of your campus
>
> 2)Campus computing replacement  cycle duration
>
> 3) “Standard” campus computer configuration
>
> 4)Approximate average boot time in minutes (from power on to usable 
> desktop)
>
> We would like to find out where out computers stand compared to other 
> institutions and be able to tell our employees how ours stack up to  
> other institutions norms….
>
> Thanks in  advance….
>
> Bill Thieke
>
> *-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*
> William S. Thieke, Ph.D.
> Director of Technology Support
> Information Technology
> Le Moyne College
> 1419 SaltSprings Rd.
> Syracuse, NY 13214
> 315-445-4599
>
> 315-445-4642 (FAX)
> thiekews@lemoyne.edu <mailto:thiekews@lemoyne.edu>
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    Hi William.<br>
    <br>
    I would suggest taking two computers that are identical and have one
    in the domain and one outside of the domain (I am assuming you use
    Active Directory). If the login times are very different with a
    domain machine I'd look at what user and computer group policies are
    being applied and whether or not the proper SRV are in DNS for the
    domain (are there missing entries, are there ghost entries for old
    DCs that no longer exist?). I assume you are not using roaming
    profiles correct? Having your profile sync and follow you are around
    can be a killer.<br>
    <br>
    Just my two cents :-)<br>
    <br>
    <br>
    <br>
    <br>
    On 5/16/2011 5:36 PM, William Thieke wrote:
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        <p class="MsoNormal">Our IT staff have often heard the
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          “slow” and take forever to boot up…..We have addressed with
          them the usual suspects that impact performance and startup
          time:</p>
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            style="font-family: Symbol;"><span style="">·<span
                style="font: 7pt &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">        
              </span></span></span>Security Software- Anti-Virus and
          related security software that take up available resources and
          can slow boot time with initial scans. </p>
        <p class="MsoListParagraph" style="text-indent: -0.25in;"><span
            style="font-family: Symbol;"><span style="">·<span
                style="font: 7pt &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">        
              </span></span></span>System Age- we maintain roughly a
          four-year computer replacement cycle, but software
          installations, upgrades, security patches, and general daily
          use accumulate can degrade performance over time. </p>
        <p class="MsoListParagraph" style="text-indent: -0.25in;"><span
            style="font-family: Symbol;"><span style="">·<span
                style="font: 7pt &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">        
              </span></span></span>New software - tends to make more
          demands on memory and computer speed than old software. </p>
        <p class="MsoListParagraph" style="text-indent: -0.25in;"><span
            style="font-family: Symbol;"><span style="">·<span
                style="font: 7pt &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">        
              </span></span></span>Management Tools- used for remote
          access,  software distribution  and other IT related
          functions. </p>
        <p class="MsoListParagraph" style="text-indent: -0.25in;"><span
            style="font-family: Symbol;"><span style="">·<span
                style="font: 7pt &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">        
              </span></span></span>Viruses and Other Malware- can
          drastically impact performance</p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
        <p class="MsoNormal">While we know that system performance  can
          vary drastically, depending on OS, memory and processor speed
          (our oldest systems are currently Optiplex 210L’s-P4 3Ghz with
          1-2 GB of RAM), Le Moyne College is looking to determine what
          your institution might consider a “typical” boot up time for
          your standard campus configuration computers…If you could
          answer the following it would be greatly appreciated!!</p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
        <p class="MsoListParagraph" style="text-indent: -0.25in;"><span
            style="">1)<span style="font: 7pt &quot;Times New
              Roman&quot;;">      </span></span>Size of your campus</p>
        <p class="MsoListParagraph" style="text-indent: -0.25in;"><span
            style="">2)<span style="font: 7pt &quot;Times New
              Roman&quot;;">      </span></span>Campus computing
          replacement  cycle duration</p>
        <p class="MsoListParagraph" style="text-indent: -0.25in;"><span
            style="">3)<span style="font: 7pt &quot;Times New
              Roman&quot;;">      </span></span> “Standard” campus
          computer configuration</p>
        <p class="MsoListParagraph" style="text-indent: -0.25in;"><span
            style="">4)<span style="font: 7pt &quot;Times New
              Roman&quot;;">      </span></span>Approximate average
          boot time in minutes (from power on to usable desktop)</p>
        <p class="MsoListParagraph"> </p>
        <p class="MsoNormal">We would like to find out where out
          computers stand compared to other institutions and be able to
          tell our employees how ours stack up to  other institutions
          norms….</p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
        <p class="MsoNormal">Thanks in  advance….</p>
        <p class="MsoNormal">Bill Thieke</p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*<br>
            William S. Thieke, Ph.D.<br>
            Director of Technology Support<br>
            Information Technology <br>
            Le Moyne College<br>
            1419 SaltSprings Rd.<br>
            Syracuse, NY 13214<br>
            315-445-4599</span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">315-445-4642
            (FAX)<br>
            <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:thiekews@lemoyne.edu"
              target="_blank"><span style="color: blue;">thiekews@lemoyne.edu</span></a><br>
            *-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*</span></p>
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