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Re: ipad implementation
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Peter P Morrissey)
Mon Apr 18 13:31:17 2011
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Jeff,
That's generally what we do with devices like this. However, the concern we=
have is that the iPad can supposedly be used to control the Apple TV wirel=
essly. The assumption is that the Apple TV would have to be accessed direct=
ly over wireless over the iPad. Now if you could plug it in, and the iPad c=
ould somehow still find it, that would be cool.
Pete Morrissey
From: Resnet Forum [mailto:RESNET-L@LISTSERV.ND.EDU] On Behalf Of Koerber, =
Jeff
Sent: Monday, April 18, 2011 1:24 PM
To: RESNET-L@LISTSERV.ND.EDU
Subject: Re: ipad implementation
Can you use the Apple TV on your wired network? It's probably a good idea =
anyway considering the bandwidth it would use.
If you have 802.1x on your wired network, then you or your network folks sh=
ould be able to exempt that port from 802.1x.
Jeff Koerber
Supervisor, Student Computing Services Lab and Service Desk
Office of Technology Services
Towson University
From: Resnet Forum [mailto:RESNET-L@LISTSERV.ND.EDU] On Behalf Of Angela K =
Hollman
Sent: Thursday, April 14, 2011 3:55 PM
To: RESNET-L@LISTSERV.ND.EDU
Subject: Re: [RESNET-L] ipad implementation
Is anyone using the iPad with the Apple TV? I am hearing rumors on my campu=
s that this might be the big, up and coming thing. However, as an 802.1x wi=
reless university, I find the Apple TV collaboration with Airplay not worka=
ble and I'm thinking we will need a potential secondary wireless network ju=
st to accommodate iPad/Apple TV presentations/collaborations in the classro=
om. This seems cumbersome to the users and not at all security-friendly.
Any other ideas are more than welcome,
_________________
Angela K. Hollman
Information Technology Services
Asst Director of Networking
(308)865-8176
From: Brian Gibson <gibson_brian@WHEATONCOLLEGE.EDU>
To: RESNET-L@LISTSERV.ND.EDU
Date: 04/14/2011 12:05 PM
Subject: Re: ipad implementation
Sent by: Resnet Forum <RESNET-L@LISTSERV.ND.EDU>
________________________________
A word of advice, if you do end up supporting iPads set up the "Find My
iPad" feature. A professor had her personal iPad stolen and that was not
set up before hand. She had set up the Apple mail application and the
thief didn't know so we were able to see what IP address it had but it
never helped us retrieve it. Within a day it went from Massachusetts to
New York city and our Public Safety officers worked with some police in
that area but I think it came down to not wanting to waste several man
hours to track down something that costs that much.
On 4/14/2011 12:46 PM, Jack Vizelter wrote:
> Other than that, we do support them from the stand-point of getting them =
on the wireless network, configuring VPN& email and basic how-to's. Those=
that want a 3G model and want to add it to the University account, we orde=
r them for the user but is then property of the university and if the perso=
n leaves, they need to return it or make arrangements with their department=
/lab if they want to keep it - same as for cell phones.
>
> We are looking into how to centrally manage them as far as pushing out ap=
ps and documents, configurations and iOS updates. This is a work in progre=
ss.
>
> -jack
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jack Vizelter
> Sent: Thursday, April 14, 2011 12:42 PM
> To: 'RESNET-L@LISTSERV.ND.EDU'
> Subject: RE: ipad implementation
>
> We do something similar but it's geared toward iPads& iPhones and how ou=
r users use them and to share useful apps. We do this about on a quarterly=
basis or so and we've had our Apple account come to one of them to answer =
questions and show off the apps he uses and recommends.
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Resnet Forum [mailto:RESNET-L@LISTSERV.ND.EDU] On Behalf Of Douglas=
Blakemore
> Sent: Thursday, April 14, 2011 11:51 AM
> To: RESNET-L@LISTSERV.ND.EDU
> Subject: Re: ipad implementation
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> I am organizing "ipad parties" this semester to find out how many faculty=
/staff have them (and android devices etc.) and what they are using them fo=
r, what they want to use them for and what some of the issues are. All are=
invited to come including those that do not have anything yet and are look=
ing to buy something. I will have ipads, ipod touch, android galaxy tablet=
, kindle, nook etc there and encouraging others to bring what they have and=
discuss the devices.
>
> Doug Blakemore
> ismdoug@gmail.com
> Ferris State University
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> On Thu, Apr 14, 2011 at 11:40 AM, McRitchie, Karen<MCRITCHI@grinnell.edu>=
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>> What are you doing with ipads? What type of support? Is anyone using
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>> Thanks
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>> Karen
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>> Karen McRitchie
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>> Grinnell College- Information Technology Services
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nk=3Dpurple><div class=3DWordSection1><p class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'f=
ont-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Jeff,<o:p=
></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font=
-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>That’s generally what w=
e do with devices like this. However, the concern we have is that the iPad =
can supposedly be used to control the Apple TV wirelessly. The assumption i=
s that the Apple TV would have to be accessed directly over wireless over t=
he iPad. Now if you could plug it in, and the iPad could somehow still find=
it, that would be cool.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span st=
yle=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>P=
ete Morrissey<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font=
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/o:p></span></p><div><div style=3D'border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0=
pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=3DMsoNormal><b><span style=3D'font-s=
ize:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style=
=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> Resnet Forum [mail=
to:RESNET-L@LISTSERV.ND.EDU] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Koerber, Jeff<br><b>Sent:<=
/b> Monday, April 18, 2011 1:24 PM<br><b>To:</b> RESNET-L@LISTSERV.ND.EDU<b=
r><b>Subject:</b> Re: ipad implementation<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div>=
<p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span style=
=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Can =
you use the Apple TV on your wired network? It’s probably a goo=
d idea anyway considering the bandwidth it would use.<o:p></o:p></span></p>=
<p class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",=
"sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNorma=
l><span style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:=
#1F497D'>If you have 802.1x on your wired network, then you or your network=
folks should be able to exempt that port from 802.1x.<o:p></o:p></span></p=
><p class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri"=
,"sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNorm=
al><span style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color=
:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'f=
ont-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Jeff Koer=
ber<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:11.0=
pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Supervisor, Student Co=
mputing Services Lab and Service Desk<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNo=
rmal><span style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";col=
or:#1F497D'>Office of Technology Services<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DM=
soNormal><span style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"=
;color:#1F497D'>Towson University<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal=
><span style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#=
1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'fon=
t-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> =
</o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-=
family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><d=
iv style=3D'border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0i=
n 0in'><p class=3DMsoNormal><b><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:=
"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font=
-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> Resnet Forum [mailto:RESNET-L@LISTSERV.ND.E=
DU] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Angela K Hollman<br><b>Sent:</b> Thursday, April 14=
, 2011 3:55 PM<br><b>To:</b> RESNET-L@LISTSERV.ND.EDU<br><b>Subject:</b> Re=
: [RESNET-L] ipad implementation<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p class=3DMsoN=
ormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:10=
.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Is anyone using the iPad with the Ap=
ple TV? I am hearing rumors on my campus that this might be the big, up and=
coming thing. However, as an 802.1x wireless university, I find the Apple =
TV collaboration with Airplay not workable and I'm thinking we will need a =
potential secondary wireless network just to accommodate iPad/Apple TV pres=
entations/collaborations in the classroom. This seems cumbersome to the use=
rs and not at all security-friendly.</span> <br><br><span style=3D'font-siz=
e:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Any other ideas are more than we=
lcome,</span> <br><br><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","=
sans-serif"'>_________________<br>Angela K. Hollman<br>Information Technolo=
gy Services<br>Asst Director of Networking<br>(308)865-8176</span> <br><br>=
<br><br><span style=3D'font-size:7.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";col=
or:#5F5F5F'>From: </span><span style=3D'font-siz=
e:7.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Brian Gibson <gibson_brian@WHE=
ATONCOLLEGE.EDU></span> <br><span style=3D'font-size:7.5pt;font-family:"=
Arial","sans-serif";color:#5F5F5F'>To: </span><s=
pan style=3D'font-size:7.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>RESNET-L@LIS=
TSERV.ND.EDU</span> <br><span style=3D'font-size:7.5pt;font-family:"Arial",=
"sans-serif";color:#5F5F5F'>Date: </span><span s=
tyle=3D'font-size:7.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>04/14/2011 12:05 =
PM</span> <br><span style=3D'font-size:7.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-seri=
f";color:#5F5F5F'>Subject: </span><span style=3D=
'font-size:7.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Re: ipad implementation<=
/span> <br><span style=3D'font-size:7.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";=
color:#5F5F5F'>Sent by: </span><span style=3D'fo=
nt-size:7.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Resnet Forum <RESNET-L@L=
ISTSERV.ND.EDU></span> <o:p></o:p></p><div class=3DMsoNormal align=3Dcen=
ter style=3D'text-align:center'><hr size=3D2 width=3D"100%" noshade style=
=3D'color:#A0A0A0' align=3Dcenter></div><p class=3DMsoNormal><br><br><br><t=
t><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt'>A word of advice, if you do end up suppo=
rting iPads set up the "Find My </span></tt><span style=3D'font-size:1=
0.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'><br><tt>iPad" feature. A professor ha=
d her personal iPad stolen and that was not </tt><br><tt>set up before hand=
. She had set up the Apple mail application and the </tt><br><tt>thief didn=
't know so we were able to see what IP address it had but it </tt><br><tt>n=
ever helped us retrieve it. Within a day it went from Massachusetts to </tt=
><br><tt>New York city and our Public Safety officers worked with some poli=
ce in </tt><br><tt>that area but I think it came down to not wanting to was=
te several man </tt><br><tt>hours to track down something that costs that m=
uch.</tt><br><br><br><br><tt>On 4/14/2011 12:46 PM, Jack Vizelter wrote:</t=
t><br><tt>> Other than that, we do support them from the stand-point of =
getting them on the wireless network, configuring VPN& email and =
basic how-to's. Those that want a 3G model and want to add it to the =
University account, we order them for the user but is then property of the =
university and if the person leaves, they need to return it or make arrange=
ments with their department/lab if they want to keep it - same as for cell =
phones.</tt><br><tt>></tt><br><tt>> We are looking into how to centra=
lly manage them as far as pushing out apps and documents, configurations an=
d iOS updates. This is a work in progress.</tt><br><tt>></tt><br><=
tt>> -jack</tt><br><tt>></tt><br><tt>> -----Original Message-----<=
/tt><br><tt>> From: Jack Vizelter</tt><br><tt>> Sent: Thursday, April=
14, 2011 12:42 PM</tt><br><tt>> To: 'RESNET-L@LISTSERV.ND.EDU'</tt><br>=
<tt>> Subject: RE: ipad implementation</tt><br><tt>></tt><br><tt>>=
We do something similar but it's geared toward iPads& iPhones an=
d how our users use them and to share useful apps. We do this about o=
n a quarterly basis or so and we've had our Apple account come to one of th=
em to answer questions and show off the apps he uses and recommends.</tt><b=
r><tt>></tt><br><tt>></tt><br><tt>></tt><br><tt>> -----Original=
Message-----</tt><br><tt>> From: Resnet Forum [</tt></span><a href=3D"m=
ailto:RESNET-L@LISTSERV.ND.EDU"><tt><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt'>mailto=
:RESNET-L@LISTSERV.ND.EDU</span></tt></a><tt><span style=3D'font-size:10.0p=
t'>] On Behalf Of Douglas Blakemore</span></tt><span style=3D'font-size:10.=
0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'><br><tt>> Sent: Thursday, April 14, 2011 =
11:51 AM</tt><br><tt>> To: RESNET-L@LISTSERV.ND.EDU</tt><br><tt>> Sub=
ject: Re: ipad implementation</tt><br><tt>></tt><br><tt>> I am organi=
zing "ipad parties" this semester to find out how many faculty/st=
aff have them (and android devices etc.) and what they are using them for, =
what they want to use them for and what some of the issues are. All a=
re invited to come including those that do not have anything yet and are lo=
oking to buy something. I will have ipads, ipod touch, android galaxy=
tablet, kindle, nook etc there and encouraging others to bring what they h=
ave and discuss the devices.</tt><br><tt>></tt><br><tt>> Doug Blakemo=
re</tt><br><tt>> ismdoug@gmail.com</tt><br><tt>> Ferris State Univers=
ity</tt><br><tt>> -------------------------</tt><br><tt>></tt><br><tt=
>></tt><br><tt>></tt><br><tt>></tt><br><tt>> On Thu, Apr 14, 20=
11 at 11:40 AM, McRitchie, Karen<MCRITCHI@grinnell.edu> wrote:<=
/tt><br><tt>>></tt><br><tt>>></tt><br><tt>>></tt><br><tt>=
>> What are you doing with ipads? What type of support? Is anyo=
ne using</tt><br><tt>>> them with students and/or faculty?</tt><br><t=
t>>></tt><br><tt>>></tt><br><tt>>></tt><br><tt>>> T=
hanks</tt><br><tt>>></tt><br><tt>>> Karen</tt><br><tt>>><=
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r><tt>>> Karen McRitchie</tt><br><tt>>></tt><br><tt>>> Gr=
innell College- Information Technology Services</tt><br><tt>>></tt><b=
r><tt>>></tt><br><tt>>></tt><br><tt>>></tt><br><tt>>&g=
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