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Re: issues in wireless Only rooms

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Tufts, Mark)
Fri Apr 1 11:40:46 2011

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Hi,

If replacing old equipment or on new installations we install 50% less swit=
ches.  Students can request a wired port if they want but around 80 to 90% =
never request one.

#1 Yes, wireless has many more possible issues than wired for reasons other=
s have already stated.
#2 N/A
#3 For almost all students using wired is a last resort.  If the wireless d=
evice does not meet our WPA2 standard or has other technical issues we cann=
ot help them with they will use wired.

Best way to sum how students feel about wired  is this quote from a student=
 recently. " I hate that stupid little blue wire I have to plug in, it's su=
ch a pain".  The data jack was around 6ft from where she uses her laptop.

Mark


From: Resnet Forum [mailto:RESNET-L@LISTSERV.ND.EDU] On Behalf Of SHIH, WEN=
DY
Sent: Thursday, March 31, 2011 5:10 PM
To: RESNET-L@LISTSERV.ND.EDU
Subject: issues in wireless Only rooms

Hi,
Since wireless is the hot topic of the week...

We still have many buildings have wired connection only.  But from this com=
ing August, we will  provide wireless connection only in student rooms due =
to the aging switches  and the replacement cost will be too high on top of =
the wireless installation.  We plan to  install only a handful of switches,=
 so users will have to request it and let us know why they need a wired con=
nection.

To prepare ahead, I would like to know:

1.  Do you have more wireless support issues than wired issues at the begin=
ning of the semester?
2.   If you only provide wireless,  what kind of common issues do you encou=
nter?   Do users complain about no ethernet ports?
2.  If you still have both wired and wireless in rooms, please let me know =
why users won't use wireless and the percentage of devices on wired ports. =
 Are they connected to ethernet only because their desktop or consoles don'=
t have the wireless built-in or because of other reasons such as speed and =
reliability?

Thank you all in advance.

Wendy





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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Ca=
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libri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F497D"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span><=
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Ca=
libri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F497D">If replacing old equipmen=
t or on new installations we install 50% less switches.&nbsp; Students can =
request a wired port if they want but around 80 to 90% never
 request one.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Ca=
libri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F497D"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span><=
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Ca=
libri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F497D">#1 Yes, wireless has many=
 more possible issues than wired for reasons others have already stated.<o:=
p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Ca=
libri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F497D">#2 N/A<o:p></o:p></span><=
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Ca=
libri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F497D">#3 For almost all student=
s using wired is a last resort.&nbsp; If the wireless device does not meet =
our WPA2 standard or has other technical issues we cannot help
 them with they will use wired.&nbsp;&nbsp; <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Ca=
libri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F497D"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span><=
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Ca=
libri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F497D">Best way to sum how stude=
nts feel about wired &nbsp;is this quote from a student recently. &#8220; I=
 hate that stupid little blue wire I have to plug in, it&#8217;s such a pai=
n&#8221;.&nbsp;
 The data jack was around 6ft from where she uses her laptop.<o:p></o:p></s=
pan></p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Ca=
libri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F497D">Mark<o:p></o:p></span></p=
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<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, March 31, 2011 5:10 PM<br>
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<b>Subject:</b> issues in wireless Only rooms<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;font-family:&quot;Ca=
libri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:black">Since wireless is the hot t=
opic of the week&#8230;<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;font-family:&quot;Ca=
libri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:black"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p=
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;font-family:&quot;Ca=
libri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:black">We still have many building=
s have wired connection only. &nbsp;But from this coming August, we will &n=
bsp;provide wireless connection only in student rooms due to the aging
 switches &nbsp;and the replacement cost will be too high on top of the wir=
eless installation. &nbsp;We plan to &nbsp;install only a handful of switch=
es, so users will have to request it and let us know why they need a wired =
connection.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;font-family:&quot;Ca=
libri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:black"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p=
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;font-family:&quot;Ca=
libri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:black">To prepare ahead, I would l=
ike to know:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;font-family:&quot;Ca=
libri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:black"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p=
>
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<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;font-family:&quot;Ca=
libri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:black">1. &nbsp;Do you have more w=
ireless support issues than wired issues at the beginning of the semester?<=
o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;font-family:&quot;Ca=
libri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:black">2. &nbsp; If you only provi=
de wireless, &nbsp;what kind of common issues do you encounter? &nbsp; Do u=
sers complain about no ethernet ports?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;font-family:&quot;Ca=
libri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:black">2. &nbsp;If you still have =
both wired and wireless in rooms, please let me know why users won't use wi=
reless and the percentage of devices on wired ports. &nbsp;Are they
 connected to ethernet only because their desktop or consoles don't have th=
e wireless built-in or because of other reasons such as speed and reliabili=
ty?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;font-family:&quot;Ca=
libri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:black"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p=
>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;font-family:&quot;Ca=
libri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:black">Thank you all in advance.<o=
:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;font-family:&quot;Ca=
libri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:black"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p=
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;font-family:&quot;Ca=
libri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:black">Wendy<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;font-family:&quot;Ca=
libri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:black"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p=
>
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